Writing Erotica About Your Mother

[Cantabile]

The last thread got closed before I could reply, so I'm starting this one. Thank you so much to everyone who has offered advice and allowed me to get things off my chest; it's been very helpful to me, and I'm very appreciative for this community. If the moderators would prefer me to stop discussing this on the board then please close this thread. I'll understand completely.

Nothing is wrong with writing erotica, and I understand that torture and all that is a sexual preference for some people, but that he wrote about doing such horrific things to his own mother just blows me away. Maybe I am letting my dislike of her cloud my judgment, but that doesn't seem like something a kid do unless the issue was really serious. I don't know if she's physically abusing him and the rest of the family doesn't know about it, or if the emotional control and abuse is worse than I thought... She's always made her husband and children feel like they're shit, criticizing and mocking everything about their personalities and appearances, saying that they're wastes of her time, completely worthless, and shit like that nearly every day since they've been born.

But still, the type of stuff he wrote was absolutely deprived. Things like anal-raping her at a zoo, then sticking a tube up her anus, and inserting venomous snakes into it, and raping her from behind while another man forces her to give him oral sex, pinching her noise so she can't breathe and suffocates on his penis. What the hell? Where does a 12 year old even get ideas like that?

That isn't normal. My grandson isn't a sick person, but what he's writing is sick. Is it healthier to just write about this shit and keep it in his head rather than act any of it out? Yes. But he shouldn't even be thinking about these types of acts. The hatred itself is unhealthy and needs treatment.

Christmas break is coming up soon, so maybe the parents will let me take him for a vacation to Tahoe. We can ski and spend time together, hopefully work through some of these issues, and there won't be any internet at the cabin, so he'll have a break from all his Internet habits.

Either way, though, a therapist is necessary. I'll do my best to help the family, but I'm in no way a trained professional with these types of things, and I've never dealt with something like this before.

[Swordfish]

Man, I don't really have any advice to offer you, but I wish you luck and offer kudos for taking an active role.

[Mya Stone]

But still, the type of stuff he wrote was absolutely deprived. Things like anal-raping her at a zoo, then sticking a tube up her anus, and inserting venomous snakes into it, and raping her from behind while another man forces her to give him oral sex, pinching her noise so she can't breathe and suffocates on his penis. What the hell? Where does a 12 year old even get ideas like that?

Christmas break is coming up soon, so maybe the parents will let me take him for a vacation to Tahoe. We can ski and spend time together, hopefully work through some of these issues, and there won't be any internet at the cabin, so he'll have a break from all his Internet habits.

Sadly, the internet is most likely the answer to your first question.

As to the other quoted text, that's exactly what I was thinking of. I wrote this but the board ate it.

But don't treat them like the elephant in the room, either. They do have to be addressed. If you feel like he's opening up, start approaching the subject, but don't broach what you know he's been doing. .

Right.

I was thinking that since Cantabile posts on here, maybe he could try and forge a common ground with his grandson with something that isn't Hentai or panty-fetishes. With that bond, it could grow into something more substantial where he trusts his gramp enough to open up. I feel like he may have trust issues with his family in general (what pre-teen doesn't?); but having his grandfather there as not only a positive role model, but someone who he has things in common with, will help open up lines of communication.

[Darkostar]

That isn't normal. My grandson isn't a sick person, but what he's writing is sick.

The former is the reason you don't have to worry, man. GRRM isn't a proponent of incest, but he writes it. This is the product of a kid with some major family issues and some burgeoning sexual tendencies. Writing is a good outlet for those sorts of things. Man, I've definitely penned some intense stuff in my time, but I wouldn't enact any of it.

That's the important thing here: for the kid to learn his boundaries and limits.

[Balefont]

All the best to you and your family, Cantible. Very glad to hear you are getting directly involved. Feel free to come back here as things progress if you need to vent.

[The Evil Hat]

I was going to write a post about how simply having (or even writing about) domination/rape fantasies doesn't necessarily make you a fucked up person, no more than writing a violent story makes you one, but I hadn't realized they were about his mother. I stand completely corrected; this could needs therapy. There's no question about it. I'm not saying that he's a bad person or anything, but this is far more than a phase of exploring weird porn.

And the web cam needs to be taken away and not under any sidestepping pretenses.

[gladius]

But still, the type of stuff he wrote was absolutely deprived. Things like anal-raping her at a zoo, then sticking a tube up her anus, and inserting venomous snakes into it, and raping her from behind while another man forces her to give him oral sex, pinching her noise so she can't breathe and suffocates on his penis. What the hell? Where does a 12 year old even get ideas like that?

:lmao:

Sorry, but this reminds me of the stories that me and my sister were writing at that age. They weren't sexual, but there was a lot of violence and depraved black humor. We even competed to see who would kill somebody in the most ingenious way.

The stories aren't the problem, his relationship with the parents is.

[Kelli Fury]

The last thread got closed before I could reply, so I'm starting this one.

Nothing is wrong with writing erotica, and I understand that torture and all that is a sexual preference for some people, but that he wrote about doing such horrific things to his own mother just blows me away. Maybe I am letting my dislike of her cloud my judgment, but that doesn't seem like something a kid do unless the issue was really serious. hell?

My grandson isn't a sick person, but what he's writing is sick.

I think it's wonderful you are being supportive of him, but it is dangerous and counterproductive to say he isn't sick. Not in a sense that he's a serial rapist in the making, but that there is a clear mental illness here. If this is laid only at her feet, his behavior can't be changed, even if she sparked it initially. If I caught a cold from you, after I have it, treating you won't help me. His reaction IS NOT reasonable or common for kids in his position, and is symptomatic of mental illness. I don't think it should be any harder or more shameful than saying the kid has the flu. This shouldn't be about blame or crucifying her, focus on the kid, tell her she can help him by being nicer to him instead of saying "this is all your fault" that way she won't get defensive and real change is more likely.

[BigFatCoward]

when i read the title of this thread my heart sank. i know this kid has been brought up in a house that is not great for his development, but as this has progressed i have come to realise that for want of a better expression 'this kid is a fuckin weirdo'. i think everyone has been keeping this to themselves for a while as every body likes cantabile but seriously, its just getting to the point where i think he needs sectioned rather than therapy. i don't think the kid is necessarily to blame from what i've read of the home dynamic but he is a fucking crackerjack.

sorry cantabile, i like your posts a lot and you seem like a decent person but this kid is fucking sick.

[aimlessgun]

Every update, I think it's reached the point where it can't be topped. And so far I've been wrong every time.

[Ken Stone]

There's money to be made in writing erotica. Encourage his creativity.

[TrueMetis]

When did you discover this little project? Did he just start writing it or is it old, because if it's very recent maybe he found out about the key logger. If not than it may be time to get him some therapy.

[zollo]

Peterbound is going to have a stroke.

Although mildly shocking (using mildy in a rather loose manner) - it really makes little odds on the grand scheme of things. Just another problem to solve on top of the existing pile. Just be glad all this comes out now and not 15 odd years down the road. At least now you and your family, with the help of professionals, are likely to have a good shot at sorting this out to a substantial degree. Wishing you and yours all the best.

[Jaerv]

I still think it is obvious that the whole family needs a therapy, not only the grandson. The grandson presents a symptom that indicates that the social system he lives in is unhealthy. The grandson is not the problem itself, he is the focus point of the problem, which is older and bigger than a hateful child of 12 years.

[gryphon strike]

Cantabile I do not know what to say, the kid is obviously feeling outcast and hated and very alone this is why he has written these stories. What he needs is of course as everyone has said is therapy and a fixed home situation.

Maybe more importantly he needs to know there is someone out there who loves him unconditionally and is willing to show it.

If you can do this for him you will become his rock upon which to stand when everything else is shifting sands to him.

That doesn't mean supporting his current writing habit either, you can still set certain standards just make sure you support him in every positive thing he does.

[jurble]

Every update, I think it's reached the point where it can't be topped. And so far I've been wrong every time.

I know right. At first I was like, "This kid is a little strange, but like only like 7% Japanese strange." Now he's reached 85% Japanese strange.

[smegma]

Are we on candid camera?

But seriously - there's a lot of anger is this kid. Get the family some help. If they won't go to therapy, take on a stronger role in his life (unless you are bad for him too).

[Stego]

This is awesome. Sorry, man, I know these problems are real, but these thread titles are FUCKING AWESOME.

[Liadin]

Has anyone talked to the granddaughter lately? She hasn't gotten much mention but I'm feeling like she might need some help too, if this household is as poisonous as it sounds.

[Guy Kilmore]

I have read through this thread and some of this one. All these behaviors are symptoms of the same thing. Professional help and involvement is warranted at this point. The entry point is your grandson talking to a therapist, other services can grow from around there. Some of the sexual stuff, specifically the web cam chats, is enough for a a report to child protection if nothing is done about it by the parents. I know that as a mandated reporter, I would have to report this issue. If I remember correctly you stated mom was willing to take her child to medication management, this should be an easily manipulated point. Any mental health practioner worth his or her salt will be able to pick up the underlying issues that are occurring. If his school ever caught wind of some of this behavior, there is a good chance they would report it.