alguien Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 It's pretty common knowledge that Coca Cola made Santa a big deal a couple of generations ago, Alison. They gave him his red and white outfit so as to match their advertising colors.According to Snopes, that's a common misconception. However, I think its very fair to say that they had a great deal to do with solidifying the current image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stego Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 According to Snopes, that's a common misconception. However, I think its very fair to say that they had a great deal to do with solidifying the current image.They had a great deal to do with popularizing his current image and popularizing him in the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balefont Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 The plot thickens. ETA: But does this serve to support Irritable's assertion that: the Santa myth has never been as popular as it is now a days, Seems to me that Santa has been a pretty big fucking deal for several generations and yet only now are we dealing with a huge percentage of a generation full of attention whores and I'm Speshuls. I don't buy it the correlation has anything to do with the myth of Santa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stego Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 The plot thickens.Snopes goes on to say that Coke made him famous. Pssh. Snopes sucks on this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alguien Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 They had a great deal to do with popularizing his current image and popularizing him in the media.Oh no doubt. Although he was on the cover of the Saturday Evening Post before that. I'm just glad that the red and white isn't actually based on Coca Cola colors. That would have been... sad. Instead, I'm sort of wondering if its what led Coke to choose Santa as a marketing tool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balefont Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Instead, I'm sort of wondering if its what led Coke to choose Santa as a marketing toolThat's pretty much covered in the article you linked but I can't copy and paste any of it. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Seems to me that Santa has been a pretty big fucking deal for several generations and yet only now are we dealing with a huge percentage of a generation full of attention whores and I'm Speshuls. I don't buy it the correlation has anything to do with the myth of Santa.It doesn't. Santa, when you look it up, is not near as old as you might assume, but he's still been around for like 70+ years.He's not a new phenomenon you can blame for the latest "get those kids off my lawn" thing you rant about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balefont Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 It doesn't. Santa, when you look it up, is not near as old as you might assume, but he's still been around for like 70+ years.He's not a new phenomenon you can blame for the latest "get those kids off my lawn" thing you rant about.Thank you for agreeing with me. :smug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 According to Wikipedia Santa Claus is quite a bit older than 70 years. 'Twas the Night Before Christmas was published in 1823. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinDonner Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Yeah, but he was basically like a pixie in that. No jolly fat guy with elf minions and flying reindeer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantabile Posted December 21, 2010 Author Share Posted December 21, 2010 I thought 'Twas the Night Before Christmas is what popularized the reindeer and their names, and it had multiple descriptions of him being a fat jolly old elf. Him living in the North Pole and having factories of elfs didn't come until later, though. Speaking of the elfs: what kind of message is that sending to children, eh? Slave labor, is what it is. Do we hear of elf unions? No. Elf salaries? No. They work all day, every day, for hundreds of years, building toys for people they will never even meet.It's infinitely worse than any child labor sweat shop.Santa = Slavemaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spastic Plastic Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Don't forget his raging boner when the kiddies sit on his lap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantabile Posted December 21, 2010 Author Share Posted December 21, 2010 That is pretty pedophiliac (let's pretend that's the adjectival form of 'pedophile' since I can't seem to find one). And what if some people don't want him to deliver presents? Then he's just outright breaking and entering. Not to mention stealing their milk and cookies.And think about how much Rudolph suffered all those years until his big debut. Why didn't Santa step in and keep them from taunting him? I bet he was in on it. Probably having illegal flying reindeer fights too. Bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Yeah, but he was basically like a pixie in that. No jolly fat guy with elf minions and flying reindeer.Well, he was a tiny fat elf with flying reindeer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balefont Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Don't forget his raging boner when the kiddies sit on his lap.Well at least it's not Golden Retriever bestiality. Now that's sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantabile Posted December 22, 2010 Author Share Posted December 22, 2010 Well at least it's not Golden Retriever bestiality. Now that's sick.If you want to discuss my family, then you're welcome to send me a PM, but please keep the topic out of unrelated threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Yeah, but he was basically like a pixie in that. No jolly fat guy with elf minions and flying reindeer.Using Wikipedia again it seems a lot of the present day myth can be traced to cartoonist Thomas Nast who first depicted him in 1863. Also, L. Frank Baum's children's book The Life and Adventures of Santa Clause in 1902.According to the site Nast gets credit for him being a jolly, plump old dude.ETA:Here's an article that talks about a book that would seem to interest you Cantabile. Although from the article I wonder if your real name isn't Matthew Brody. <_<Link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartTesla Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Odin ---> Sinterklass -----> Santa Claus. I think perhaps replacing African slaves with cuddly elves and reindeers is an improvement, but still. Its all mythology. Some of us carry it over to our adult life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantabile Posted December 22, 2010 Author Share Posted December 22, 2010 Here's an article that talks about a book that would seem to interest you Cantabile. Although from the article I wonder if your real name isn't Matthew Brody. <_<Link.That article is...beautiful, thank you. But I'm not asking anyone to boycott Christmas, nor have I called Santa "The Kimg Jon-il of the North Pole."Though I like the comparison. I might have to steal it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantabile Posted December 22, 2010 Author Share Posted December 22, 2010 http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1944833This guy gets it. "Hey, here's a question: Why do we expect our kids to grow up into honest people when we lie to them from the moment they're born?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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