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That's because of the Hatchet/Amazon dispute. It should be available for order on the day of release, just not for pre-order.

Thanks. Yeah, after reading back through the thread, I see that now.

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I went to a book signing in Denver tonight with both guys. It was fantastic, if a little sparsely attended. Neither seemed bummed about the attendance, and had the same thought that myself and the guy I was talking to before it started did - this will be their last tour with any intimate events like this. So, if you can definitely hit up the events in your area.



WRT the television show:


  1. They've spent the last six weeks in LA working with the showrunners on developing the show. Does that ever happen in Hollywood?
  2. No.
  3. So why did it happen in this instance? Because of SyFy desire to make this a high quality show, not just for the show's sake, but to also help get them back into the quality sci-fi programming business and to recapture the BSG viewership.
  4. They talked a bit about the new network leadership (which I talked about in the thread in entertainment), and their dedication to turning things around.
  5. Because of this new direction at the network, Dan and Ty chose SyFy. SyFy was not the only network that wanted to adapt it, and they made SyFy work to get it.
  6. If that doesn't give you hope for the series, then fuck you.
  7. No casting info was given, nor did anybody ask.
  8. When asked if it would be one book per season, Dan cryptically replied that "Leviathan Wakes is a long, dense book, and they gave us a ten hour (episode) order."
  9. The show will be called The Expanse.


I got all of my first edition Long Price Quartet books signed, expect to see them up on ebay shortly. j/k that's never going to happen.



They were both psyched at how well the book did yesterday at independent book stores and B&N, and amazon even though they were trying to hamstring them by not allowing pre-orders.



He pronounces Geder with a hard g, but Geder doesn't care how you say his name.



In the Expanse Universe, they try to stick to actual physics as much as possible, but will break things in cases where the general public won't notice - this is their "smell test" or "wikipedia test." Where LW was a noir mystery novel in a sci-fi setting, and CW was a political thriller, and AG was a ghost story, CB is their take on a western. The fifth book is tentatively titled Nemesis ...., shit, I can't believe I forgot the second word. In the book everybody gets what coming to them, and they've been looking forward to writing that one "for the past 3 or 4 books." When they have enough material in the short stories and novellas they will put them out as a collection.



And in case you haven't heard - The Expanse has been signed up for three additional books for a total of nine.





Pulled from the MLN Hanover thread:





I asked him about the series tonight at a book signing in Denver, and it sounds like MLN Hanover is dead. He was given a two book contract to start the series, then another two book contract, and then just a one book contract, and as the series progressed there wasn't any sales bump for the earlier books in the series and the majority of sales for the final book occurred within the first week of release. He did say that there are other stories he could have told if it had done well enough to warrant further books, but as it was with that one book contract he went ahead and crammed in all of those secrets and mysteries that he wanted to slow release over five additional books.






That's all I've got for right now, if you have any specific questions ask them, and I'll answer if they came up.


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Great summary there REG :)



A total of 9 books - this should keep syfy busy for many a season if they deliver what appears to be promised.



Also think it's great that fans and authors enjoyed the fact they had time to have a proper chat. Like you said it could be one of the last chances we all get. It's a lot harder to do that when there's a queue of several hundred.


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Thanks for the awesome summary. It's very encouraging to hear that SciFi is committed to making the adaptation genuinely good*, and that the authors are so involved and find it to be such a positive situation -- that's a lot of work they're doing with the production.



*I'm rooting for SciFi to work their stuff out, really I am, but it sounds like a couple of the shows that represent their beginning of this attempt to get their shit together still have major issues, so it's doubly nice to hear they're going so amazingly far beyond what's required here.



And could the word after Nemesis be "Games"? Pretty sure I've seen Nemesis Games as the title for book 5 mooted somewhere. Or have they changed it?



Also great to hear Cibola Burn is doing so well out of the gate [oh shit, there's a pun in there, I am sorry], and that the next one is going to be so kickass. It is really beginning to happen for The Expanse, isn't it? Now the same just needs to happen for The Dagger and the Coin!



I'd have thought Geder would actually be quite invested in whether people pronounce his name correctly. "OMG the g is hard why can't you pronounce my name why do you mock me so you must not love me you must think I'm incompetent why do you hate me and think I suck you must be a traitor die die immediately."


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REG, thanks for that. Can't wait for the TV show, especially given the level of creative control the authors seem to have over it...







In the Expanse Universe, they try to stick to actual physics as much as possible, but will break things in cases where the general public won't notice - this is their "smell test" or "wikipedia test."





This is actually one of the things I like most about the books - there's evidently been a lot of thought put into making them realistic without cramming them full of jargon. Little things like the whole treatment of acceleration/gravity in space and on space stations.



The entirely realistic assessment of humanity's colonisation of an alien planet in CB was probably my favourite thing about it - there's no need for terrifying super-predators or physically/mentally superior species, the most likely candidate for "kill all humans" would easily be microbes.


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Am excited to get my hands on Cibola Burn followed by Widow's House later this year. Really wish they were coming to Joe Beth in Lexington like George and Brandon Sanderson. :crying:

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can folks be careful with spoilers. Some of the comments are verging on it regarding "cibola burns". Not a problem yet but thought I'd mention it before it does.






Am excited to get my hands on Cibola Burn followed by Widow's House later this year. Really wish they were coming to Joe Beth in Lexington like George and Brandon Sanderson. :crying:





It's nice to get a double dose of fun in the SFF department every year courtesy of Dan and Ty.


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I got all of my first edition Long Price Quartet books signed, expect to see them up on ebay shortly. j/k that's never going to happen.

Until I got to the second sentence, I was afraid I was going to have to revoke your nerd card. :P

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I'm glad everybody enjoyed my poor recap of an awesome event. Seriously, if there's any chance you can attend one of these, do it - you won't regret it. #6 above were my words not theirs btw.






Great summary there REG :)



A total of 9 books - this should keep syfy busy for many a season if they deliver what appears to be promised.



Also think it's great that fans and authors enjoyed the fact they had time to have a proper chat. Like you said it could be one of the last chances we all get. It's a lot harder to do that when there's a queue of several hundred.





There were literally only like 12 of us there, and one of them was Dan's friend and fellow author Carrie Vaughn (the only woman :lol:). The last two signing events I went to were Neil Gaiman and Martin - each of which was cut off at 1000 people. This was great and such a different experience. I doubt they'll be pulling a thousand people next year, but 150-300 is definitely realistic (or two years depending on when the show is released).






Thanks for the awesome summary. It's very encouraging to hear that SciFi is committed to making the adaptation genuinely good*, and that the authors are so involved and find it to be such a positive situation -- that's a lot of work they're doing with the production.



*I'm rooting for SciFi to work their stuff out, really I am, but it sounds like a couple of the shows that represent their beginning of this attempt to get their shit together still have major issues, so it's doubly nice to hear they're going so amazingly far beyond what's required here.



And could the word after Nemesis be "Games"? Pretty sure I've seen Nemesis Games as the title for book 5 mooted somewhere. Or have they changed it?





When they were talking about how they decided on SyFy, they talked about how the former head of the network loathed science fiction and the fans of science fiction even more. It sounded like that was information they got directly from the people with whom they're working at the network.



It might have been Nemesis Games, but that doesn't feel quite right to me. That was the one thing during the signing that I thought I really wanted to remember, repeated in my head a couple of times even, and poof, it is gone. :lol: If you've seen that elsewhere, then it probably is correct. It's been their tentative title for awhile now according to Dan, and "we're keeping it" according to Ty.






REG, thanks for that. Can't wait for the TV show, especially given the level of creative control the authors seem to have over it...





This is actually one of the things I like most about the books - there's evidently been a lot of thought put into making them realistic without cramming them full of jargon. Little things like the whole treatment of acceleration/gravity in space and on space stations.






Ty talked about the Epstein drive a bit, and how it is based on a theory that potentially could work, but likely would not in actuality. And they'll never say what it is so that people could then poke holes in it. This is also the reason they never give dates in the book - they don't want people looking up planetary positions and poking holes for specific dates (even though they do look up and know those themselves). They also go through and strike out any specific time frame and make it more vague when they're editing.






Until I got to the second sentence, I was afraid I was going to have to revoke your nerd card. :P





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Ty talked about the Epstein drive a bit, and how it is based on a theory that potentially could work, but likely would not in actuality. And they'll never say what it is so that people could then poke holes in it. This is also the reason they never give dates in the book - they don't want people looking up planetary positions and poking holes for specific dates (even though they do look up and know those themselves). They also go through and strike out any specific time frame and make it more vague when they're editing.

;)

Never noticed the lack of dates before but it's quite striking now you mention it. God, geeks are hardcore I can just imagine the whole "mars would never be that close to earth on that date - tearing me completely out of the story so I can no longer enjoy it". Then again there may be people trying to work out the date based on any comments as to where planets are in relation to one another.

Did they mention if the novellas will keep popping up in between the main series? I usually find them relatively fun,

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Amazon.co.uk says Nemesis Games.

Hopefully Amazon and orbit will be friends again before it comes out and a decent offer can be had. On the bright side it's forced me into finding some non-amazon owned companies to get my fix of orbit books.

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Never noticed the lack of dates before but it's quite striking now you mention it. God, geeks are hardcore I can just imagine the whole "mars would never be that close to earth on that date - tearing me completely out of the story so I can no longer enjoy it". Then again there may be people trying to work out the date based on any comments as to where planets are in relation to one another.

Did they mention if the novellas will keep popping up in between the main series? I usually find them relatively fun,

Yeah, nerds can be the worst. :)

They did say they're under contract for one (or two, I can't remember) more novella, but the odds that they write more are extremely high because they both really enjoy doing them.

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Yeah, nerds can be the worst. :)

They did say they're under contract for one (or two, I can't remember) more novella, but the odds that they write more are extremely high because they both really enjoy doing them.

We're all guilty of it given the right criteria. Funny how authors consciously avoid feeding them material though.

I'd like the novella to become more popular again - especially in the e-format. It's such a nice way to give a bit of background on a character or shed some light on an aspect of the series without having to force it into a book. A bit like a webisode I guess (which could be a neat idea for the show).

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My god, whos chose the color sceme for the insert on the physical release? I can't even look at it, let alone read it without getting dizzy.



Pro: Best of the series, so far. Bout halfway through.


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I didn't realize it was only out in Hardcover. The OCD in me will have to come to terms with the fact it won't match on my shelf, or I'll have to wait. Hmmmm...

:dunno:

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I didn't realize it was only out in Hardcover. The OCD in me will have to come to terms with the fact it won't match on my shelf, or I'll have to wait. Hmmmm...

:dunno:

My collection is a bit of a mongrel one anyhow. First is trade, 2nd digital, 3rd likely to be digital and 4th hardback. The collector in me thought having a first edition may be worthwhile with the show on the horizon. That and the fact I could get the physical copy for the same price as the kindle.

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I didn't realize it was only out in Hardcover. The OCD in me will have to come to terms with the fact it won't match on my shelf, or I'll have to wait. Hmmmm...

:dunno:

Let me make it even worse for you - the large print on the spine for the first three books is the name of the book, for the new one James S.A. Corey is the big print with the name in very small print.

Dan pointed that out when somebody asked about it being in HC only. Then he said wait until next year, when the front will probably have The Expanse ready big at the top then James S.A. Corey then Nemesis Games at the bottom and a picture of the cast instead of the lovely covers they have now.

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