madking Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 I actually made a list as I did a read through a few years back. I had only made it as far as A Storm of Swords though. You can really see the escalation as the series goes on. For comparison, the first 3 books of the Wheel of Time had a combined 24 named deaths.A Game of Thrones - 54 deathsSer Waymar RoyceWillGaredJon ArrynLadyMycahSer HughJyckKurleketMohorMorrecChiggenLharysWylHewardJory CasselWallenHaliStivTregarSer Vardis EgenViserys TargaryenRobert BaratheonFat TomVarlyCaynHullenDesmondOthorJafer FlowersLord VanceSer Raymun DarryMasha HeddleSer Jaremy RykkerKhal OgoKhal FogoUlf son of UmarConn son of CorattTorrhen KarstarkEddard KarstarkDaryn HornwoodQuaroQothoHaggoCoholloEddard StarkSepta MordaneVeyon PooleRhaegoEroehKhal DrogoAndros BraxMirri Maz DuurA Clash of Kings - 72 deathsMaester CressenPraedBeric DondarrionSer Burton CrakehallHendry BrackenLyman DarryAllar DeemSer Hubard RambtonDoreahWothDobberQyleGerrenKossYorenKurzLommy GreenhandsAll-for-JoffreyMedger CerwynChiswyckStafford LannisterRupert BraxRoland CrakehallAntario JastLymond VikaryRenly BaratheonStevron FreyReekDonella HornwoodEmmon CuyRobar RoyceTodricBenfred TallhartWeesePoul PemfordMylesAron SantagarHigh SeptonSer Preston GreenfieldAlfyn CrowkillerSer Cortnay PenroseLeo LeffordAlebellyMikkenSer Amory LorchSepton ChayleDrennanSquintGelmarr the GrimAggarGynir RednoseFarlenSer Mandon MooreSer Guyard MorrigenMaester TothmureLucanGoodwife HarraBryce CaronSer Bryan FossowaySer Edwyd FossowaySer Rodrik CasselLeobald TallhartCley CerwynRed RolfeKennedBlack LorrenUlfSquire DalbridgeEbbenQhorin HalfhandPoxy TymMaester LuwinA Storm of Swords - 97 deathsIggoSer Jacelyn BywaterGuncer SunglassDale SeaworthAllard SeaworthMatthos SeaworthMaric SeaworthJate BlackberryLord ChytteringHookface WillHal the HogGladden WyldeLothar MalleryMaslynSer Ottyn WythersThoren SmallwoodSmall PaulSer Helman TallhartTion FreyWillem LannisterDelpElwoodRickard KarstarkCleos FreySer Imry FlorentMonford VelaryonKraznys Mo NaklozGrazdan Mo UllhorJarlSymon SilvertongueBrown BernarrHakeBannenCrasterGarth of OldtownRolley of SistertonSer Byam FlintJeor MormontAlynHoster TullyKyleSepton UttBodgerSallor the BaldPrendahl Na GheznBalon GreyjoyLord BotleyLark the SistermanSoftfootRylesChettRobin FlintSer Wendel ManderlyLucas BlackwoodDonnel LockeOwen NorreyDacey MormontSmalljon UmberRobb StarkAegon FreyCatelyn StarkGrey WindDeaf Dick FollardRast Young HenlyOld HenlyEasyDornish DillyStyrQuortStone ThumbsYgritteOznak Zo PahlMeroJoffrey BaratheonSer Dontos HollardVargo HoatDonal NoyeMag the MightyRed Alyn of the RosewoodSer Endrew TarthSer Aladale WynchOberyn MartellHarma DogsheadPolliverThe TicklerWatt of Long LakeDallaShaeTywin LannisterEon HunterLysa ArrynPetyr FreySer Garse GoodbrookSer Tytos FreyMerrett Freyfor Game of Thrones you forgot Syrio Forrel. (Awaits the debate) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 IMHO Syrio is not there bc there is not a definite prove that he actually died. He could have, but we don't know. The same can be said of the Cleganes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horza Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Allar Deem's there and no one saw him die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckwheat Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Syrio Forel died. It is known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Allar Deem's there and no one saw him die.but it's very likely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AutomatedTeller Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 You know - for a series which is famed to be "everybody dies and no one is safe"....not all that many major characters die.Ned, Robb, Robert, Tywin, Lyssa, Renly, Lord Mormont, Joffrey and Gregor Clegane are, I think, the only main ones that are dead and confirmed dead - well, a bunch of old guys. And I'm kind of pushing it with Tywin, Renly and Robert being major characters. I mean - Bran and Rickon are still alive - one of them is 4 and the other is a cripple. Catelyn is alive (ish), and she actually died!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huan Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 You know - for a series which is famed to be "everybody dies and no one is safe"....not all that many major characters die.Ned, Robb, Robert, Tywin, Lyssa, Renly, Lord Mormont, Joffrey and Gregor Clegane are, I think, the only main ones that are dead and confirmed dead - well, a bunch of old guys. And I'm kind of pushing it with Tywin, Renly and Robert being major characters. I mean - Bran and Rickon are still alive - one of them is 4 and the other is a cripple. Catelyn is alive (ish), and she actually died!!And I think that of these characters, only Renly died in ACoK; aside from Ned and Robert, everyone else died in ASoS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaitscralt Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Martin's comments regarding Syrio seem to concrete that he is in fact dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivin Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 I actually made a list as I did a read through a few years back. I had only made it as far as A Storm of Swords though. You can really see the escalation as the series goes on. For comparison, the first 3 books of the Wheel of Time had a combined 24 named deaths.A Game of Thrones - 54 deathsSer Waymar RoyceWillGaredJon ArrynLadyMycahSer HughJyckKurleketMohorMorrecChiggenLharysWylHewardJory CasselWallenHaliStivTregarSer Vardis EgenViserys TargaryenRobert BaratheonFat TomVarlyCaynHullenDesmondOthorJafer FlowersLord VanceSer Raymun DarryMasha HeddleSer Jaremy RykkerKhal OgoKhal FogoUlf son of UmarConn son of CorattTorrhen KarstarkEddard KarstarkDaryn HornwoodQuaroQothoHaggoCoholloEddard StarkSepta MordaneVeyon PooleRhaegoEroehKhal DrogoAndros BraxMirri Maz DuurA Clash of Kings - 72 deathsMaester CressenPraedBeric DondarrionSer Burton CrakehallHendry BrackenLyman DarryAllar DeemSer Hubard RambtonDoreahWothDobberQyleGerrenKossYorenKurzLommy GreenhandsAll-for-JoffreyMedger CerwynChiswyckStafford LannisterRupert BraxRoland CrakehallAntario JastLymond VikaryRenly BaratheonStevron FreyReekDonella HornwoodEmmon CuyRobar RoyceTodricBenfred TallhartWeesePoul PemfordMylesAron SantagarHigh SeptonSer Preston GreenfieldAlfyn CrowkillerSer Cortnay PenroseLeo LeffordAlebellyMikkenSer Amory LorchSepton ChayleDrennanSquintGelmarr the GrimAggarGynir RednoseFarlenSer Mandon MooreSer Guyard MorrigenMaester TothmureLucanGoodwife HarraBryce CaronSer Bryan FossowaySer Edwyd FossowaySer Rodrik CasselLeobald TallhartCley CerwynRed RolfeKennedBlack LorrenUlfSquire DalbridgeEbbenQhorin HalfhandPoxy TymMaester LuwinA Storm of Swords - 97 deathsIggoSer Jacelyn BywaterGuncer SunglassDale SeaworthAllard SeaworthMatthos SeaworthMaric SeaworthJate BlackberryLord ChytteringHookface WillHal the HogGladden WyldeLothar MalleryMaslynSer Ottyn WythersThoren SmallwoodSmall PaulSer Helman TallhartTion FreyWillem LannisterDelpElwoodRickard KarstarkCleos FreySer Imry FlorentMonford VelaryonKraznys Mo NaklozGrazdan Mo UllhorJarlSymon SilvertongueBrown BernarrHakeBannenCrasterGarth of OldtownRolley of SistertonSer Byam FlintJeor MormontAlynHoster TullyKyleSepton UttBodgerSallor the BaldPrendahl Na GheznBalon GreyjoyLord BotleyLark the SistermanSoftfootRylesChettRobin FlintSer Wendel ManderlyLucas BlackwoodDonnel LockeOwen NorreyDacey MormontSmalljon UmberRobb StarkAegon FreyCatelyn StarkGrey WindDeaf Dick FollardRast Young HenlyOld HenlyEasyDornish DillyStyrQuortStone ThumbsYgritteOznak Zo PahlMeroJoffrey BaratheonSer Dontos HollardVargo HoatDonal NoyeMag the MightyRed Alyn of the RosewoodSer Endrew TarthSer Aladale WynchOberyn MartellHarma DogsheadPolliverThe TicklerWatt of Long LakeDallaShaeTywin LannisterEon HunterLysa ArrynPetyr FreySer Garse GoodbrookSer Tytos FreyMerrett FreyThat... is appalling... How... how did you do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notozobaczymy Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Roland Crakehall, Lymond Vikary and Antario Jast are still alive. The rumors of their death were untrue, all of them were probably captured (all are mentioned as alive in ADwD appendix).Benfrey Frey died after Red Wedding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkash Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Yeah, it is said that the season 2 of the show may kill more characters than in the book... but who ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horza Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 ADwD Butcher's Bill:Thistle, a spearwife - slain and Wighted by Others.Varamyr*, greatest of the Skinchangers - throttled + wounds recieved at Battle of Castle Black.Stalwart Shield, Unsullied - Slain by the Sons of the Harpy.Hazzea, shepherd's daughter - Drogon was hungry.Janos Slynt, revolting toady, Lannister lickspittle - Executed by order of John Snow, Lord Commander of the Nights Watch.Rattleshirt, the Lord of Bones - burnt and feathered while in the guise of Mance Rayder.Ralf Kenning, castellan at Moat Cailin - put out of his misery by Theon Greyjoy.Dagon Codd, stubborn fellow - catches an axe in the face courtesy of...Adrack Humble, short half an arm - took Ramsay Bolton at his word.Rolfe the Dwarf, one of Asha's men - shortened by a head at Deepwood Motte.Rhaegar Frey, envoy to White Harbour - served at Ramsay's wedding.Ser Jared Frey, ditto - ditto.Symond Frey, yadda yadda.Black Jack Bulwer, ranger - didn't fear the Weeper.Hairy Hal, ranger - " "Garth Greyfeather, ranger - " "Lord Harwood Fell, sworn to Stannis - hypothermia on the way to Stannis' Battle of Moscow re-enactment.Yellow Dick, Bolton man - killed by the washerwomen.Little Walder, bully - killed by person(s) unknown.Luton, Bolton man - wasn't quiet enough about his disembowelment for Ramsay.Holly, "washerwoman" -meets some crossbow bolts on the Walls of Winterfell.Frenya*, "washerwoman" - is probably not up to beating six guards...Barsena, pit figher - boared to death.Yurkhaz mo Yunzak, top banana of Yunkai'i - trampled by his own slaves.Nurse, slavemaster - rides the Pale Mare.Yezzan Zo Qaggaz, big banana of the Yunkai'i - ditto.Cromm, Asha's man - freezes to death on the way to Stannis' Battle of Moscow re-enactment.Groleo, admiral without a fleet - decapitated as a message to Dany.Khrazz, pit fighter, bodyguard, ignorant of the utility of armour - gaps in knowledge amended by Barristan.Maester Kerwin, Crows Eye's spy - boarding pass cancelled mid-voyage by Victarion.Ser Patrek of King's Mountain, blatant piece of fanservice :P - Wun Wun's ragdoll.Jon Snow, Lord Commander of the Night's Watch* - failed to adequately monitor staff morale.Quentyn Martell, apprentice veterinarian - crisped while attempting an unauthorised release in the lizard pen.Maester Pycelle, grumpy old hack - prop in Varys' pantomime act.Kevan Lannister, the dependable Lannister - audience for same.*provisional deathsRoughly by order of death, I compiled from two separate lists so it's not chronological in the middle, but I don't care. Only named characters who died in the course of the books, so Ramsay's girls and Quent's other companions don't make it, though I've let Hazzea in because it was recent. I've almost certainly missed a few, please feel free to point them out.Surprisingly low death toll for named characters, 35 not that much above AFFC's low. Martin's smite button tends to fall on the unnamed extras, giving much bloodier tale to the reader than this list bears out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Quentyn Martell, apprentice veterinarianI lol'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkash Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Jon Snow, Lord Commander of the Night's Watch* - failed to adequately monitor staff morale.Quentyn Martell, apprentice veterinarian - crisped while attempting an unauthorised release in the lizard pen.Those two made my day! ^^We still miss the Feast list here ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraggle Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 You know - for a series which is famed to be "everybody dies and no one is safe"....not all that many major characters die.Ned, Robb, Robert, Tywin, Lyssa, Renly, Lord Mormont, Joffrey and Gregor Clegane are, I think, the only main ones that are dead and confirmed dead - well, a bunch of old guys. And I'm kind of pushing it with Tywin, Renly and Robert being major characters. I mean - Bran and Rickon are still alive - one of them is 4 and the other is a cripple. Catelyn is alive (ish), and she actually died!!This. I really don't know how Martin has managed to get a reputation for killing off characters willy-nilly. I would argue that there have been maybe six deaths that have really resonated either politically or emotionally - Ned, Robb, Robert, Catelyn, Tywin, Renly. And of those, I know plenty of people who don't care about Robert (either because they saw it coming as a necessary plot device or because they just don't like him), Catelyn (I include myself here, I spent three books praying for her to die and when she finally did she didn't have the decency to stay that way), Renly (annoying, always likely to get it) or Tywin (politically significant but not emotionally really, unless you count pleasure at seeing Tyrion get some of his own back).Beyond that you are down to 1) cartoon villains like Viserys, Joffrey and Gregor who were more or less doomed from the start; 2) Cool characters like Qhorin, the Red Viper, or Syrio who are in the story for only a few brief chapters and would be expendable in any book, anywhere, ever; and 3) characters like Quentyn, Kevan and Pycelle, who are largely insignificant until just before their deaths and for whom we have little or no emotional investment. I will grant you that there are a few characters, mostly minor characters from the North (Jeor Mormont, Jory and Rodrik Cassel, Maester Luwin) whose deaths were pretty sad, but ultimately they are just that - minor. We don't know very much about the Cassels or Luwin other than that they're loyal to the Starks, and Mormont and Aemon were old when introduced and there was always a sense that their deaths were imminent. Drogo is maybe the one exception but for me his death was so poorly handled it was hard to care.Beyond that are endless hordes of named characters who could quite easily have been unnamed for all the impact they had on the story.So we have a 'serious' death count of maybe 5 characters (I don't know anyone who would include all six, I make it 4 myself, missing out Cat and Renly). That is more or less comparable to the number of 'fake' major deaths we have had - Brienne, Davos, Bran, etc. Compare that to LOTR (I pick this because most people have read it, and I often see people describing ASOIAF as if it's a grown up LOTR with more sex and death) - Boromir, Theoden, Denethor die in the main narrative, along with Balin dying offscreen. You could also add Smeagol, Grima and even Saruman, who are pretty much as sympathetic as Tywin. One fake death, Gandalf, device never used again. Not much difference, especially considering the far smaller cast of named characters in LOTR (I don't dispute that ASOIAF has more sex though).Basically, IMHO, the claims that Martin is an author happy to kill off his characters don't hold up to scrutiny. The final proof of this is that more or less no one believes Jon Snow is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protar Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Yeah Martin has definitelly been letting up on main character deaths recently but I expect a lot to die by the end of TWOW. Namely I think the following characters will die (in no particular order.):.Davos.Rickon.Osha.Jojen (if he's not dead already). Bloodraven. Asha. Roose Bolton. Ramsay Snow. Bowen Marsh. Little Finger.Tommen. Myrcella. Meryn Trant. Boros Blount. Daario Naharis (yay!). Penny. Bonnifer Hasty.Jon Connington.Aeron Greyjoy.Euron Greyjoy.Victarion Greyjoy.BrienneAnd probably a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Turtle Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I wonder how long is the fake death list at this point: Arya, Davos, Bran, Rickon, Mance, Connington, Ramsay, Theon once, probably Stannis, Jaime, Ashara, Aegon, Sandor ....and the list of dead but still walking is groving longer too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_watcher_on_the_wall_ Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 surely Beric Dondarrion should be on the list more than once! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish321 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I dont know if this has been asked anywhere but have we ever had a character die from inside their POV? Yes Catelyn did but then she isnt really dead, Asha is getting hit in the head with an axe when she was thought to die but she is alive, Theon is thought to have dies but he didnt. Im trying to find any POV, other than a prologue epilogue, where the person dies and stays dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horza Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Quentyn doesn't quite fit as he dies later, Jon won't stay dead for long, so I guess not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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