Maltaran Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 That's odd in Thronecast, they say Hoster died fighting Targaryen loyalists - implying it's fairly soon after the Trident when he dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andriy Czarchenko Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 I just don´t see why Cat would reference Hoster in the inn if Edmure has been the Lord for the last 17 years. Either HBO or Thronecast has messed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crow Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 About Hoster Tully's death:At the Inn in episode 4 Cat talks about her father in present tense and he is invited to lord Frey's wedding, so he is "alive". In the Thronecast video they say he died in a battle with "2 houses loyal to the house Targaryen" and Edmure succeeded him .So there are 4 possibilities:1. Thronecast made something up. (Pretty stupid.)2. HBO fed them false information. (Why? To spread confusion??)3. HBO got confused with their own script, so Hoster is alive until episode 4 and dead for 17 years after episode 4. (Which means they don't know their own show. Awful.)4. 2 houses loyal to the Targaryens rebeled after episode 4 and got crushed before Edmure is shown on the show. (Which is way too cheap, as there aren't many suicidal houses in ASOIAF universe...)I hope Thronecast made a mistake, because the other possibilities are way worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abaddon Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 I think the actual explanation is likely: 5) There's an eff-ton of information about this show and someone got something wrong in the communication between HBO and Thronecast. In other words, it's an honest mistake.The production has Bryan Cogman as a full-time staff member to correct these types of errors, and still little things slip out here and there, because frankly it's a Herculean task. Doesn't surprise me that something like this occasionally happens, particularly with a 3rd party partner that isn't even internal to HBO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crow Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 I think the actual explanation is likely: 5) There's an eff-ton of information about this show and someone got something wrong in the communication between HBO and Thronecast. In other words, it's an honest mistake.The production has Bryan Cogman as a full-time staff member to correct these types of errors, and still little things slip out here and there, because frankly it's a Herculean task. Doesn't surprise me that something like this occasionally happens, particularly with a 3rd party partner that isn't even internal to HBO. I don't think this discrepancy is due to misunderstanding between HBO and Thronecast. The quote "he died after injuries in battle fighting 2 houses that reamained loyal to the house Targaryen" is pretty hard do be misheard from "he died in bed". Of course it is a complicated story and everyone makes mistakes. But the aim of this Thronecast "show" is to inform people, rather than confuse them. Hired professionals doing their job wrong is not an honest mistake.Honestly, I don't care if Thronecast make mistakes or not. The thing that bugs me is that it could be the writers's fault. I don't mind little or even big changes in the story or CGI Winterfell growing bigger every episode or something like that. What bothers me is when there is inconsistency that is easily noticable like Hoster Tully being alive in episode 4 and dead for 17 years in episode 7. And if they did it once, who knows maybe Jory will be alive in episode 8, if they forget about him too.NOT critiquing the writers, they are doing fantastic job so far, just sharing my fears... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abaddon Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Hired professionals doing their job wrong is not an honest mistake.Right. Everything should be perfect, because they're paid. :rolleyes: As an aside, you wrote "hard do be misheard form". But you're not paid for this opinion, so I am sure that's just fine.It's easy to sling arrows when you're not involved.Honestly, I don't care if Thronecast make mistakes or not.Well, I think it's quite likely that's the case. But if it's the show that's made a mistake, that's too bad, but it won't be the end of the world either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phostopheles Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 I really don't want it to be Hoster. I always felt the funeral scene at Riverrun was very important to advancing both Cat and Edmure's characters. I hope Thronecast messed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edda van Heefmstra Ruston Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 No reply from @thronecast, but Ran & Linda have apparently checked with Bryan Cogman and no, Hoster's still alive at this point. (See the new thread in this forum.) So he's definitely off the list. Now back to your regularly-scheduled speculation. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phostopheles Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 No reply from @thronecast, but Ran & Linda have apparently checked with Bryan Cogman and no, Hoster's still alive at this point. (See the new thread in this forum.) So he's definitely off the list. Now back to your regularly-scheduled speculation. :PThis doesn't guarantee he's off the list...he could easily be killed by Targaryen loyalists before episode 10... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padraig Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Ran also confirmed that Hoster is very ill. So it seems they are sticking to the books on this one. :) While I wasn't too concerned either way, his illness does give her another reason to stay in the south. Given Bran's comments in E5, that is more important now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 If it'a a death that streamlines the story then I can't think of a better candidate than Hoster. But if it's just a minor character of little consequence then I guess there are a number of options and it's probably a character most people barely notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICKON4KING!! Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 As much as I would hate it, the story could survive without the Hound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edda van Heefmstra Ruston Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 Who'd travel with Arya as she goes around? Or would you have her stick with the BwB? She wouldn't be able to travel on her own, I don't think.Also the Hound may be dead, but there's a reasonable chance that Sandor is still alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huan Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 As much as I would hate it, the story could survive without the Hound.Sacrilege! Duck and cover, Rickon4King! And besides, who would be King Rickon's sword shield if the Hound weren't around? :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICKON4KING!! Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Shaggydog is the only knight Rickon needs. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huan Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Shaggydog is the only knight Rickon needs. :)Touché! ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judgemental Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Awesome Possum has it nailed. Charles Dance is an incredible actor and I'd hate to see him get killed off so soon, but so far the series is making Cersei a much more capable character than I would have given her credit for in the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padraig Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Awesome Possum has it nailed. Charles Dance is an incredible actor and I'd hate to see him get killed off so soonI don't think we need fear of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter209 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Haven't read the whole thread but I would guess Beric. He was shown in episode 6 being sent to bring Gregor to KL, so his storyline could be cut short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apt54 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Perhaps Balon Greyjoy?But that would get in the way of Mel's "leech burning" scene... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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