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No. You were not the only one. They were okay -- good even. But not worthy of all the gushing I thought.

When I saw them on the theater screen, I thought they were amazing. I have a 42" tv, and thought they looked "meh" on it. The screen size really made a difference (at least to me).

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I'm giving the premier a neutral. I liked the period detail. It's difficult to fathom why the bastard want's to volunteer to guard the wall after just seeing the terrified guard decapitated. The hard core sex among characters we don't know seems like porn. I was disappointed in the credits because sometimes HBO does a truly beautiful job with them. I was miffed at the writer for killing(?) a child character we'd just begun to have sympathy for. I won't be able to bond with the characters if there's a Soprano style whacking every episode. I'll watch again next week because I have faith in HBO.

I'm so tempted to say things but I wont do it. Just keep watching. I swear all the sex and nudity is consistant with the story. And I can explain Jon's desire to go to the wall without a spoiler I think. At Winterfell Jon will be nothing. He cannot inherit from Eddard anything. at the Wall he could rise high within the Nights Watch and his birth will not be a hinderence. Lady Stark ( as I think we can see from the show ) bears Jon no love. She will never make his life easy at Winterfell. In the Nights Watch He thinks he may find Honor. Something Eddard has taught his sons to desire by example.

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A great start, already can't wait for the next episode. Rather weird watching this with my younger brothers and mother around though. :lol:

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A great start, already can't wait for the next episode. Rather weird watching this with my younger brothers and mother around though. :lol:

Yeah, I had my son join me for the second airing of it. I think he was embarrassed.

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I too thought the open credits were disappointing. Sure, they were neat, but that's about all I can say for them.

Yes, I thought I saw a Marky Mark in there as well, but it was a Marky Mark mixed with Matt Damon.

And now that you've compared Jamie to the prince from Shrek, I will never be able to see him any other way.

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Yeah, I had my son join me for the second airing of it. I think he was embarrassed.

Just be glad you didn't watch it with your twin!

I thought it was great - not having read the books. I'm considering skipping the rest until it comes out on DVD so I don't have to wait.

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I watched it with my dad. I tried getting him to read the books ages ago, but he never really got past the beheading of the deserter. Throughout the episode it was fun to watch his reactions to different things

"The kings that big fat guy?! Why's he married to the queen? She's so hot!"

"I guess they are the ones who there aren't supposed to be any left of?" <-- At the intro of Dany and Viserys

"Hey that kid's not supposed to be climbing!"

"Cool dire wolves..."

Countless "who's that"s and "what does that mean"s

"It looks pretty good"

I think that he was pretty confused through most of it though, and probably would have stopped watching if he didn't know that I have been waiting ages for this, plus fantasy is not really his thing...

That said I looked over at him as it ended, after "The things I do for love" bit and he had this huge grin and was all starry eyed and just said "That was wrong on every possible level...Okay so maybe that was pretty good, we can watch it instead of Spartacus."

Then when I came down stairs he was making lunch and talking to my little brother (who didn't watch with us) and I caught the end of the convo which was "But wouldn't it be cool to have a pet dire wolf?"

So all and all I think it went pretty well :thumbsup: And once he figures out who the characters are I'm pretty sure that he'll be hooked.

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I can't understand what Ned says back about "When I fight a man for real..."

To which Jaime replies "Well said."

What does Ned say there?

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I can't understand what Ned says back about "When I fight a man for real..."

To which Jaime replies "Well said."

What does Ned say there?

I don't want him to know what I can do.

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Bishop437,

Thanks so much for explaining the Nights Watch path to honor thing. And we thought we had a lack of career opportunities here during the recession. Thanks for the unsaid as I'm not trying to be insulting to fans in any way. But if I end up really getting involved in the story, I'll be wanting a fun place to talk about it so posting here is a sign of optimism.:-)

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The credits were a surprise to me, not at all what I expected with the gears and all that. I thought they were interesting and quite beautiful, though.

I watched the show twice by now. I was quite buzzed on some seriously high alcohol content beer for the first time through - my mini premier party went off well - so the second time through I saw a hundred and one details I missed on the first viewing.

For me, it was good stuff. I have no idea how anyone who hasn't read the books will respond to it. Everyone I saw it was was either very familiar with the books or familiar enough to know the story (maybe hadn't read it in some years). My biggest fear is that it will be too confusing for non-readers of the books to follow at the beginning and that they will turn off to it before it really gets going. It's a LOT of info coming fast and furious at the viewer, whereas in the books there's almost 100 pages covering this same content, which is a lot more time to learn these people and what they are all about.

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1. He thought that Dothraki sounds like Klingon...

Well, there are some guttoral sounds in common with klingon (and arabic) and since those sounds aren't common in english it makes sense that one could make that connection. If you listen to more dialogue and compare it directly with klingon then it wouldn't sound as similar as it may do at first glance.

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The credits were very cool, but they didn't feel like they belonged. Maybe that will change with later episodes.

The rest was all well and good, I suppose. It's quite strange though, watching this show after having read the novels. Everything just feels a little...off. I hope this dissonance will disappear as I watch more.

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Bishop437,

Thanks so much for explaining the Nights Watch path to honor thing. And we thought we had a lack of career opportunities here during the recession. Thanks for the unsaid as I'm not trying to be insulting to fans in any way. But if I end up really getting involved in the story, I'll be wanting a fun place to talk about it so posting here is a sign of optimism.:-)

I think you will find that and more here ;)

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once we get past all that exposition, things will feel more natural.

I particularly enjoyed the pageantry of the king's procession - and the ending.

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Just watched ep1 for the second time.... loved it. Super sexy and stylish. Great settings and ambience. Only thing I'm really missing is powerful theme music.

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