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Has anyone seen the next episodes? I'm a huge fan of the books, read them each at least 3 times. But honestly there was way too much sex/boobs/nudity in the first episode. Does anyone know if this will continue?

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Has anyone seen the next episodes? I'm a huge fan of the books, read them each at least 3 times. But honestly there was way too much sex/boobs/nudity in the first episode. Does anyone know if this will continue?

I haven't seen them, but based on the reviews I'd assume it will continue (reviews saw 6 episodes and almost all of them commented on the sex).

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I haven't seen them, but based on the reviews I'd assume it will continue (reviews saw 6 episodes and almost all of them commented on the sex).

Dang. At least I have the books, They are better anyway.

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Dang. At least I have the books, They are better anyway.

Yea don't think of the HBO series as any kind of replacement or literal version of the books... we have the audio books for that! ;} But give it a chance. I liked it better second viewing. The scenes really are magnif...

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Oh man... that CGI view of King's Landing is bad-ass!

Ok - only casting I don't like is Theon. Everything else is perfect.

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Oh man... that CGI view of King's Landing is bad-ass!

Ok - only casting I don't like is Theon. Everything else is perfect.

He doesn't look at all like I imagined him, but the scenes I've seen with him are fantastic. Totally bought into the Alfie Allen casting now.

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I don't think there's more sex in this than the books, if that's your complaint.

Well I think the complaint goes like... the 10 eps are such shortened versions of the book, why spend an un-proportional amount of time on the sex stuff.

Anyway, for me... besides the gratuitous Dothraki wedding celebration doggy style (was that even in the book?!), I thought this ep was about right for .... HBO.

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Well I think the complaint goes like... the 10 eps are such shortened versions of the book, why spend an un-proportional amount of time on the sex stuff.

Anyway, for me... besides the gratuitous Dothraki wedding celebration doggy style (was that even in the book?!), I thought this ep was about right for .... HBO.

Well yeah, I guess most people just like watching sex and HBO knows it, etc etc.

The Dothraki full on raped women during the wedding in the book, so that was the same. From what I remember, there was also mention of them 'riding women like they rode their horses'. Lol.

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I'm new here. Hi all! :)

I have just recently been reading the first book. I'm about 200 pages in and it seems I'm well past what happened in the first episode. First book in a long while that I'm finding hard to put down. I really enjoyed the show and I thought it was very much like the book.

Question? Does the first season go along with the first book only?

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Yes.

Thank you! I'm not big on reading series' books one right after the other so this will give me time to read the next book before the next season.

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I'm new here. Hi all! :)

I have just recently been reading the first book. I'm about 200 pages in and it seems I'm well past what happened in the first episode. First book in a long while that I'm finding hard to put down. I really enjoyed the show and I thought it was very much like the book.

Question? Does the first season go along with the first book only?

Welcome! And yes, Season 1 tracks with Book 1. Book 2/Season 2 should do the same (assuming we get it) but after that we'll see. Book 3 is very long and there is already talk that it might need to be split into two seasons, maybe a full 22 episodes between them. Books 4 and 5 (which is coming out later this year) are an even more confusing issue as to how they will need to be structured for the series. You'll understand why when you read them

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Ok - only casting I don't like is Theon. Everything else is perfect.

Theon isn't at all as I've always pictured him. He looks like a dirty weasel. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but isn't he supposed to be somewhat handsome?

When I began reading the books, I was in full LOTR mode. So when I read that Theon was good with a bow, I pictured him like Orlando Bloom. So, the show is a far cry from my expectations of his appearance. Not that this is an issue at all to grumble about.

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I loved the opening credits, they are a work of art. Not spectacular, with knights and scenery, but very well made. I watched them 2-3 times and it is obvious how much care went into making them. I don't know what you guys expected, but it looks really good and besides, serves a purpose.

This time I liked Will's beheading better. In the 14 minute preview the blood looked more... fake, like a ton of red paint, while here it was much more believable. I compared them and maybe it's just me, but they've improved on that scene. Also, in some of the previews when Bran runs on the walls of the castle there was a moment that was obviously CGI and it was OK here. So, basically, the visual part was perfect. The score could have been stronger, but I think we complain about it mostly because the other elements are exquisite and not that the music is weak itself.

The Dothraki wedding was a bit odd, which is to confirm all the reviews I've read reently. Other than that the sex was well placed. I didn't feel like it was overdone, certainly not more prominent than in the books and not really in greater quantities than in other quality shows without rating issues to consider.

As to many questions I read here people unfamiliar with the books asked, I found many clues in the dialoge and I guess with later episodes and reruns things will get clearer. Besides, HBO has a guide on their site to help in such cases where there is the basic info and without the danger of walking into a massive spoiler zone.

Overall it was a feast for my eyes and I loved it. Too bad there is a whole week till the next one.

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I don't think there's more sex in this than the books, if that's your complaint.

The problem for me was the way the sex scenes were shot not the amount of sex. The camera panning down to make sure all of Emilia Clarke's buttocks were in the shot then the prolonged way she took the steps to the bath for example. I think they were going for it being almost ceremonial but the tone they'd set was pornographic and by that point it seemed just an excuse to have a five fingered shuffle. While the book isn't always decorous it didn't go into prolonged descriptions of Dany's sumptuous breasts etc in the first few pages and when we have had more fully described sex scenes it was about the story (with one major exception).

I've no real problem addong these scenes to help establish characters and i'll admit they're all relatively in character but they felt more about showing tits (and in the shaving scene: abs) than the personalities inolved, almost like HBO have a nipple quotient. This was largely what turned me off True Blood so i hope it doesn't do the same. Ironically two of three scenes where nudity was involved in the books during this portion (Catelyn in her bedchamber being naked infront of maester Luwin and Cersei with Jamie) were done fully clothed. The Cat one at least was a real part of her character building.

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Has anyone seen the next episodes? I'm a huge fan of the books, read them each at least 3 times. But honestly there was way too much sex/boobs/nudity in the first episode. Does anyone know if this will continue?

Definitely will. But as others have said, it's nothing more than what's in the books.

I thought the first episode was way too choppy. The only reason I understood what was going on was because I read the books. I'm going to watch it with my partner later and I can already tell that she's going to be asking loads of questions. I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't like it because of that. It might get to the point where we wait for several episodes before making her watch them back to back. It felt that sparse with information. I understand why it was but I still think it'll be tough on new viewers.

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Welcome! And yes, Season 1 tracks with Book 1. Book 2/Season 2 should do the same (assuming we get it) but after that we'll see. Book 3 is very long and there is already talk that it might need to be split into two seasons, maybe a full 22 episodes between them. Books 4 and 5 (which is coming out later this year) are an even more confusing issue as to how they will need to be structured for the series. You'll understand why when you read them

Thank you! Based on what I saw tonight, we better get a second season...and a third and a fourth..... :laugh:

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