How Would You Rate Episode 107?

[tarantella]

I'd give this one an 8. Tywin definitely fits the hardass patriarch bill really well and I thought they got the relationship between him and Jaime down in that scene. The Dany scenes were also pretty good, especially now that we're seeing how Jorah is conflicted. And I couldn't stop cringing at almost every single thing Ned Stark did or said this episode.

I still think they're getting Renly wrong. He seems way too halting and hesitant. In the book he was a flashy, slightly arrogant guy, I imagine usually with a rakish grin. Granted he had to be serious this episode, but still. I don't know how they're going to pull off that scene between him and Stannis in season two at this rate.

And Littlefinger telling those whores all about his ambitions and his love for Catelyn... ehh. The whole thing felt wrong, it didn't seem characteristic of Littlefinger at all and it overstayed its welcome. I have absolutely no problem with those kinds of scenes, but this one felt jammed in. For lack of a better word.

Edited May 31, 2011 by tarantella

[The Anti-Targ]

Would have been a 9 but for Ros' training day scene. Which put it back to an 8.

[YoDaddy]

Had to go with a 6. I love lesbian sex as much as the next guy, but this scene had ZERO place in the show. What is it with these writers? When a guy like me thinks there's too much sex and nudity in a show, you have a serious problem.

I could pick it apart even further, but that is just the fanboy in me being dissapointed that it is not following the book more.

[Eve]

Gave it an 8. Would have been a 9 if not for the awful LF-porn scene.

That was exactly why I gave it an 8 as well. I am all for the sex scenes, but that was just unnecessary and distracting. I almost gave it a 7, but at least we saw Ghost this episode.

[Bannerman]

I'm disappointed in the cliffhanger ending. And "Tommy Carchetti" is a poor casting choice for Littlefinger. So many casting choices are on the money though that I shouldn't quibble. :)

[Dalan]

Lany,

Yes there are misunderstandings. I never insulted him or discredited him. I made a joke about my own comment; the Drogo secne had a WWE feel to it, he said he liked it, I said he must like WWE. It's a joke.

As for my opinions; they are not the only viable ones on the board, but they are made without an emotional attachment.

You admit emotion in your last post which creates bias messaging. It goes back to my original statement of inflated ep rankings.

who cares about what I have to say? Im one dude.

As much as I loathe to get involved in this I fear I am unable to resist.

Just because you believe your opinions lack emotions do not make it so. To not admit your own emotional influences in your opinions is an insidious and dangerous conceit. Every human opinion has emotion. It is impossible for a human being to separate opinion from emotion. To deny that your emotion influences your opinions or rationales could in time lead you to a belief of moral superiority over others due to your believe that other's opinions are swayed by emotions while yours are (falsely) not. I hope you in time come to realize that you do not have a monopoly on what it means to be unemotional or biased.

I also hope you understand how awesomely epic that previous paragraph was, especially posted on a thread dedicated to rating a television episode of a series based on the first book of a fantasy series.

Back on to what really matters, my opinion: I gave this episode a 7. So the series stands as 1:9/2:8/3:10/4:9/5:9/6:8/7:7

Going a bit downhill the last few, but perhaps it is just my expectations that are going up. And I really want to see the Tower of Joy.

Edited June 1, 2011 by Dalan

[valacirca]

Tally of episode scores so far. Episode 7 emerges at the middle of the pack:

E06 - 8.75 (206 votes)

E05 - 8.62 (245 votes)

E02 - 8.12 (241 votes)

E07 - 8.09 (151 votes)

E04 - 7.96 (252 votes)

E01 - 7.91 (142 votes)

E03 - 7.87 (235 votes)

Overall series score: 8.21 / 10

[Popgun]

Tally of episode scores so far. Episode 7 emerges at the middle of the pack:

E06 - 8.75 (206 votes)

E05 - 8.62 (245 votes)

E02 - 8.12 (241 votes)

E07 - 8.09 (151 votes)

E04 - 7.96 (252 votes)

E01 - 7.91 (142 votes)

E03 - 7.87 (235 votes)

Overall series score: 8.21 / 10

Interesting. I thought E07 was the best yet. E04 was my "least favourite" hence I only gave it an 8. All other episodes got a mixture of 9's and 10's.

[BigFatCoward]

Tally of episode scores so far. Episode 7 emerges at the middle of the pack:

E06 - 8.75 (206 votes)

E05 - 8.62 (245 votes)

E02 - 8.12 (241 votes)

E07 - 8.09 (151 votes)

E04 - 7.96 (252 votes)

E01 - 7.91 (142 votes)

E03 - 7.87 (235 votes)

Overall series score: 8.21 / 10

freaky, i just popped in to ask someone with the time on their hands to work this out. thanks very much.

i haven't watched ep 7 yet but that is about bang on the money for the order i had them so far. does that make me mr average?

[mimi]

I gave episode7 a '9'. Thought it was really good. I will miss Mark Addy!!!

2 things:

The king's death and the vows and ending would've packed a lot more emotion if there was even a little appropriate music! I'm so surprised at how little music there is in each episode. Those scenes could be SO dramatic, yet they were so quiet that it didn't quite make it....to me. Love the opening theme and wish they would apply it more.

AND, I'm sorry but Aiden(?) is just really flat, to me. Littlefinger is an important role and he's not the part at all. He looks the part, but his lines are almost robotic.

LOVE the wall!

[Swordfish]

That was exactly why I gave it an 8 as well. I am all for the sex scenes, but that was just unnecessary and distracting. I almost gave it a 7, but at least we saw Ghost this episode.

We also heard him bark.

So it gets a five from me.

[Ealdorman Halasahr]

Thought the episode was good except for Tywin. Not how i imagined him at all.

The highlight was Drogo's speech.

I kind of liked Charles Dance's take on Tywin Lannister. Not bad at all. Hopefully you'll like him better in the future episodes.

By the way, welcome to the board! Enjoy your time here :rofl:

[oneeye]

I have been giving 10's. I mean compared to the book, we could argue, but compared to other TV shows, especially non HBO/showtime/AMC crap on CBS or FOX, 10 is easily the only option.

[Songlian]

7 again for me, made from 9 and 6 scenes.

Tywin Lannister was definitely a 9, he made the episode for me and the skinning of the stag was so much like him, it was amazing. I'm very pleased with the casting and the acting for him. The same with Osha, the Night's Watch Vow (would have been a ten if they hadn't cut down the words), every scene with Ned, especially those at the end and (probably) the final one with Robert. Mark Addy was simply great in this show, and as far as I'm concerned, he will be missed.

Moving into 6 territory: Ros and Littlefinger... what was that, I don't even. Contrary to the popular belief, I found Drogo's speech hilarious, especially when he got to boast about raping the women and such. Another part that should have been dramatic for me but ended up being hilarious was when the rider-less horse gets back from beyond the wall, and Jon asks all pouty "Where is my uncle?", like everyone knew but wouldn't tell him. And I'm not exactly sure what that scenes was supposed to bring that we didn't knew already.

And I just have to mention Dany and Sam, who are so great with their performances, they're making me like their characters in the books as well. :)

[Former Lord of Winterfell]

6 for me, two points lower than I'd give any other Ep.

The LF sex scene was just bizarre. From the general reaction, I doubt it will have the intended effect of attracting more viewers. My wife -- who has a good porn collection and actually sells sex toys -- has signed off from the show because of that. And -1 because Littlefinger himself is just such a disappointment. Like the bad guy in some Wall Street movie rather than in a medieval setting.

I thought Tywin was great, but the idea of dressing an animal in your tent was just wacky. You might skin inside, but you'd never gut inside and just dump the entrails inside a tent. Particularly in good weather. That struck me as strange. For that matter, you generally gut the same time/place you bleed it.

The rest was great, though.

[Eve]

We also heard him bark.

So it gets a five from me.

:D I wonder why they kept the bark. It did make me laugh out loud, but at least they remembered that the wolves were in the books.

[King-Slayer]

The porn scene was really off putting and drawn out to the extreme...I don't mind throwing in some sex and nudity but ~5 minutes of pretty hardcore girl on girl sex is way over the top. Not to mention it totally overshadowed the importance of what Littlefinger was saying.

Tywin is a disappointment in his first appearance,

I would give it a 7. I agree, over the top. The Littlefinger scene is the worst in the series for me. So annoying, trying to hear the story. I had to rewind to listen to it again.

I liked Tywin though, but not the gutting of the animal. I suppose they wanted to add the symbolism and have something going on instead of just a conversation. Someone said Jaime and his father had this conversation in the book. I don't remember reading it. I'll flip through and try to find it.

[Tywin's bastard]

We also heard him bark.

So it gets a five from me.

We already knew Ghost isn't mute in the show though since he snarled in the scene where they scare Rast.

Edited June 2, 2011 by Tywin's bastard

[Gurney Halleck]

On par with the other episodes so far this season. Just.

Yes, I'm all for juicy book moments and exposition of plot. This epi had lots of both, but I don't think it was portrayed as well as in previous shows. Yes, I agree the littlefinger brothel scene was a bit nutty, "play with her arse" - did anybody else realise how quick and done that line was, over before it began? it may look on paper but I think the actors were a bit "I know this is HBO but REALLY?" don't get me wrong, love arty sex but this was distracting from the lines LF gives.

Ros, make more time for Sansa and the Hound. Will you kindly?

Yeah, lack of direwolves is crap, but at least we have them looking awesome and real before they become huge and CG!

[Swordfish]

:D I wonder why they kept the bark. It did make me laugh out loud, but at least they remembered that the wolves were in the books.

Ha. true....

We already knew Ghost isn't mute in the show though since he snarled in the scene where they scare Rast.

I missed that i think. But that doesn't make it better. There's just no reason for it. The fact that he's mute is not a throwaway detail, and making him bark and growl serves no useful purpose and detracts meaningfully from the story. It's just a really bizarre decision.