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How Would You Rate Episode 107?

  

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And why is Lord Tywin butchering an animal in his pavilion? Shouldn't some of his servants be doing just that? Nice hard acting, though, by Charles Dance. I'm glad Tywin Lannister isn't my father.

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I'm a little disappointed. For those who know me a little, as you can imagine what happens to me. The series has not shown a scene of Lancel Lannister and her cousin Cersei.

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I'm a little disappointed. For those who know me a little, as you can imagine what happens to me. The series has not shown a scene of Lancel Lannister and her cousin Cersei.

:rolleyes: That's not even revealed until book 2. They need to show Lancel turning haughty and arrogant first. His and Tyrion's scene where he gets the truth out of him is a good one, no need to ruin it early.

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mormont is underrated as a character and his importance to the story.

Which one? I'm loving both, myself, though we haven't gotten a lot of the Old Bear yet. Jorah's being portrayed perfectly though.

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:rolleyes: That's not even revealed until book 2. They need to show Lancel turning haughty and arrogant first. His and Tyrion's scene where he gets the truth out of him is a good one, no need to ruin it early.

You are right, but several people told me they had shared a scene. It is possible that the creators have put the scissors in the mounting.

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We are all die hard fans of asoiaf, but at times our emotions can get in the way of what is really going on. Thus, I feel, this forum lacks brutal honesty. People that see the truth are calling out the show, while others are saying its "the best one yet" or "excellent" or "a 10". The fact is this ep was none of those. It was good, not great, and I don't see how a view could be subjective.

Ex:

The porn shot- I like chicks, but we all know what's going on there.

Robberts death- "I guess the king died"' lacked emotion.

Tywin and the stag- poorly done when put in context of the book.

Drogo- here I come WWE!

In conclusion, this ep was much like the seires, up and down, hit and miss, a roller coster...you get the point.

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We are all die hard fans of asoiaf, but at times our emotions can get in the way of what is really going on. Thus, I feel, this forum lacks brutal honesty. People that see the truth are calling out the show, while others are saying its "the best one yet" or "excellent" or "a 10". The fact is this ep was none of those. It was good, not great, and I don't see how a view could be subjective.

Ex:

The porn shot- I like chicks, but we all know what's going on there.

Robberts death- "I guess the king died"' lacked emotion.

Tywin and the stag- poorly done when put in context of the book.

Drogo- here I come WWE!

In conclusion, this ep was much like the seires, up and down, hit and miss, a roller coster...you get the point.

I didn't give the episode a 10, but you're really being unfair to other posters here. It was a pretty damn good episode, and if people liked it that is their opinion. It IS subjective. How can their opinion on how much they liked the episode, which is what this generally boils down to, NOT be subjective? How was Tywin's scene poorly done? Why did you think Drogo's scene was bad? It seems you essentially threw out a bunch of opinions after saying it isn't something that can be subjective.

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Yeah, that's very subjective and personal. Here's how I see it; you have your opinion, others have theirs. There's nothing that says one is more valid or more 'true' than the other. I don't see how you can come out and say that you 'see the truth' while others are just baaah'ing along. It's your opinion, and it's worth just as much as anyone else's. :/

Anyway, I disagree - I think the only real low point of this episode was the Littlefinger whore scene. Sure, the producers may have felt that LF needed more exposition.. but why so long? and gratuitous? It might just be that I dislike the way they've made a non-book prostitute a recurring character that messes up our story lines. :P

It seems like they meant to include the subplot where Jon makes sure Sam ends up as Aemon's steward, going from his dialogue. 'I see Ser Alliser's revenge'.. Revenge for what? The scenes they filmed, that were left on the cutting floor in favor of Roz eating out another prostitute? :worried:

I loved Charles Dance as Tywin, and I don't think dressing the stag was out of character. He's rich and powerful, but he's not a lofty lord who sits on pillows. He gets his hands dirty. Dressing his own kill illustrates that.. and the kill being a stag was a nice bit of symbolism. Well, at least I thought so. :unsure:

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We are all die hard fans of asoiaf, but at times our emotions can get in the way of what is really going on. Thus, I feel, this forum lacks brutal honesty. People that see the truth are calling out the show, while others are saying its "the best one yet" or "excellent" or "a 10". The fact is this ep was none of those. It was good, not great, and I don't see how a view could be subjective.

Ex:

The porn shot- I like chicks, but we all know what's going on there.

Robberts death- "I guess the king died"' lacked emotion.

Tywin and the stag- poorly done when put in context of the book.

Drogo- here I come WWE!

In conclusion, this ep was much like the seires, up and down, hit and miss, a roller coster...you get the point.

Those who "see the truth"? "The fact is" that this episode was subpar?

Yeah okay. Good to know your opinion is fact. :rolleyes:

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What I'm saying is remove the emotional attachment and judge it that way. It's very hard to do; most posters can't.

It can't truely be subjective if emotions are fueling your post, there needs to be separation, which the forum lacks when dealing with the show.

Tywin: how was it bad? How was it good, I ask?

Drogo: "I want you! Westeros, next Saterday night in the Madisen Square Garden!...."

Robert: that was not done well... FACT

Porn: "hey Joey, my mom and dad are gone. Look whats on TV," says the 15 year old to his friend.

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Really, because the GRRM I remembers has lots and lots of similar sex scenes. ;)

Nah, Martin's sex scenes are involving more pink masts than that, surely. Or a Lord's kiss. Not so many sleazy and utterly unnecessary, unmotivated scenes, just for the sake of nudity (or heterosexual male's ideas of lesbian sex workers' sex) itself.

Many hunters are very peculiar about their prey. And the symbolism was very nice.

I like that he butchered the animal (a stag btw, like he was ripping the guts right out of the house of baratheon). shows that he chose to butcher the animal. obviously he could have had it done, but he chose it. seven hells, he has a chest of drawers in his tent!

All right, I give you the obvious symbolism, that was rather ... symbolical. (I still wouldn't want Tywin Lannister as my father, though.)

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Dude, you saying the scenes are bad - and claiming that it's actual fact - is the same as people calling this episode the best yet. In reality, none of the scenes are good or bad, and there's no way to prove their quality in either direction. It's fine if you don't like them but to say that we're ignoring "the facts" if we say we like them is a bit ridiculous.

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There's a lot of irony WRT the sex scenes. HBO likes to boast about how they have the "freedom" to show the explicit sex, full frontal nudity, male nudity, rape, incest, what have you (as well as violence like decapitating a horse or lingering on blood spurting from a guy's neck for 15 seconds). Yet at the same time they seem trapped and beholden by those same freedoms, the scenes becoming obligatory and shoehorned in whether they fit or not, or are necessary or not.

I'm disappointed that HBO doesn't have the guts to be better than Starz in this regard, where I expect it (Camelot). If they want to be the elite storytellers, they should be able to rely on that without forced gimmicks. Nothing wrong with a sex scene if it really makes sense, but it's getting ridiculous, it's like someone has a sex and violence checklist for each episode. Won't ruin Thrones for me, but it is distracting.

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it's getting ridiculous, it's like someone has a sex and violence checklist for each episode. Won't ruin Thrones for me, but it is distracting.

Agree.

Boy on boy. check

Brother on sister. check

Dwarf on whores. check

Girl on girl. check

Slurping sounds. check

Sucking noises. check

Moaning and squealing. check.

Doggy, doggy everywhere. check, check, check.

:rolleyes:

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What I'm saying is remove the emotional attachment and judge it that way. It's very hard to do; most posters can't.

It can't truely be subjective if emotions are fueling your post, there needs to be separation, which the forum lacks when dealing with the show.

Tywin: how was it bad? How was it good, I ask?

Drogo: "I want you! Westeros, next Saterday night in the Madisen Square Garden!...."

Robert: that was not done well... FACT

Porn: "hey Joey, my mom and dad are gone. Look whats on TV," says the 15 year old to his friend.

my husband has no emotional attachment to the series (at least he didn't when the show started). He has never read a single word GRRM has written, never met the man, never wanted to and just barely tolerates my idolization.

His facts say this is the best series on TV. His facts say King Robert is very well done; his facts say he was ready to ride with Drogo; his facts say he learned a lot about Littlefinger in that brothel scene.

I might get used to a world where opinion equals fact.

I gave the episode a 9---(yes, it was the brothel scene that lowered)

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Agree.

Boy on boy. check

Brother on sister. check

Dwarf on whores. check

Girl on girl. check

Slurping sounds. check

Sucking noises. check

Moaning and squealing. check.

Doggy, doggy everywhere. check, check, check.

:rolleyes:

Hint: DON'T read the books ;).

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Lany:

Your husband must like pro wrestling.

Look, I never said it's not a good show, (Its my fav on tv) but you prove my point when I say we fan boys/girls can't truly make subjective post unless we strip all emotion. That dosent happen here much; look at the rankings of each ep. Not many votes below seven.

It reminds me of when Star Wars ep 1 came out. People where going nuts as they made their way out of theaters saying how great it was. A few months later most were in tears.

Remember fan is short for fanatic.

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I hate pro wrestling and thought the Drogo scene was well done. When I watch a series that I've read before hand, I'm pretty good at putting the book in the back of my head and watch the show for what it is. So far GoT is pretty amazing. Great cast. The sex scene was a little over the top in this episode but it did really show what kind of person LF really is. My wife is a didn't read the series and she is in love with the show. Take it for what it is and quit nitpicking the crap out of it. It's entertainment and pretty damn good to boot. I gave this episode a 9, sex scene did kinda spoil it.

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What I'm saying is remove the emotional attachment and judge it that way. It's very hard to do; most posters can't.

It can't truely be subjective if emotions are fueling your post, there needs to be separation, which the forum lacks when dealing with the show.

It must be so nice to be you and to be so far above everyone else. Good thing your opinions are fueled by FACTS, not the stupid emotions (like enjoyment) that everyone else has.

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