reiver Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 In the book Roose atacks but retreat in an ordely fashion quite soon and before his troops rout. Yet he only atacked in the first place because he still had a chance since he was only outnumbered 2 to 1, which isnt such a big disavantage if you control other variables (morale, army disposition, landscape, weather etc).I don't believe Roose ever had a chance. Personally i feel that Roose attacking the way he did was the first step in his betrayal of Robb and his attempt to seize the north. It's stated several times that Robb has little chance against Tywin with his full force and Tywin lannister wont be caught by suprise. So Roose attacking at all rather than menacing Tywin seems foolhardy. To do so after a night march when it's almost a certainty that Tywin wont be outmanouvered that way only served to tire his men. That it was the other Northern houses and their lords that suffered most from this battle, while the dreadfort men seemed unscathed further adds to my conspiracy theory. I'm not claiming that the whole Red wedding and duskendale scenario was fully formed at that point just that Roose was faithless from the start. Admittedly that has little to do with your point it's just that i don't agree that the green Fork was a viable battle in the books either. I think, like with the book, the ruse works better without contact being made and to actually attack Tywin rather than menace and distract, is folly.Edit: btw, to those who said the objective for Roose was to give battle. It wasn't. This is never mentioned once in the book. He is only supposed to give the impression of being Robb's full force. Attacking is actually counter to that as it reveals the truth. I'll admit it never explicitly says he wasn't to give battle either but the dialogue before the split suggests that doing so was not the intention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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