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O man, season's finally over, and what a wait it will be 'til next spring. Thankfully episode 10 was great and still managed to amaze me despite the fact that I've read through game of thrones twice within the last couple months. Still I gave it an 8.5 rounded to a 9, mostly since I was expecting a bit more from the final scene.

The scenes new to the storyline (aka not the book stuff) were great this time around, although the maester Pycelle scene was drawn out far longer than it needed to be to prove its point. Pycelle's untrustworthiness should have already been established in the minds of anyone paying attention to the show, let alone the books. He is portrayed as an opportunistic Lannister creature from the moment he seems to deflect the well founded speculation that Lannister men are behind the initial ravagings in the Riverlands (scene where Ned holds court). I guess the writers wanted to make it more apparent that he truly is as fake as they come in King's Landing, which is saying a lot. Having Ros in the scene works for a simple continuity, I don't see what the complaints regarding her are all about. Besides she's hot, although Pycelle in that sheerish robe is most certainly not. The greatest addition was the scene with Robb and Caitlin in their state of grief, something the book passed over more than I would have preferred given the humanity of all the characters in A Song of Ice and Fire.

The final scene is an amazing addition to the storyline of course. However, I wish it had played out more similarly to the way it did in the books; not because I'm a to-the-book pain in the ass loyalist, but because the book scene was better IMO. The lack of not seeing the comet took away from the magic of the scene. Also the comet gives continuity to the overall storyline since everyone in the world can see it, and if anything it means a resurgence of magic - a theme that will strongly develop in the episodes to come. It would have been an easy cgi addition to the scene too, since you can easily superimpose it on a solid black night sky.

The biggest difference is how the scene ends in the daytime seemingly hours later rather than seemingly minutes later in the book. Its strange that Dany would have just been chilling there for hours with her dragons. It may add more weight and mystique to the scene to end it the way they portrayed it, but there's something about the ferocity and power that was lost from not having the spell work as quickly as the fire burns. I'm not going to nitpick the fact that Dany still has her hair - it makes her seem all the more untouchable by fire. Also the visual of her and the dragons was beautifully done, and not just because Emilia Clarke is super bangin. It reminded me of Botticelli's Birth of Venus painting, and truly this is a rebirth for Dany. The dragons were also really cool, even cute looking. They would definitely make awesome pets especially since you would never ever need to buy another barbecue ever again.

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I actually didn't remember the comet appearing at the end of the first book because there was so much going on, the detail escaped my attention. I figured when I read the second book it came shortly after the dragons arrived and after the first book ended. Surely the moment was magical enough that not having the red comet appear matters that much? I think it might have been a bit cheesy actually as the dragons were more than sufficient, but I enjoyed how different characters in the second book interpreted the comet, so I kind of hope it'll be included in the second season. Personally, I figured when I read the book that it was a natural phenomenon and people subscribed to whatever superstition they wanted for it.

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10/10

I'm not inclined to look this gift horse in the mouth. I think most people, Martin included if I'm remembering correctly, were skeptical this story could ever be brought to the screen with any authenticity. I think HBO has succeeded wonderfully in bringing us a visual feast while staying true to the story, for the most part. I expect some plot manipulation in service to the medium. I'm even willing to give them the benefit of the doubt (at least for now) over the increasingly ludicrous Ros scenes.

I am baffled, however, by the scene where it appears the same actor presented earlier as Marillion plays the hapless, and now tongue-less, King's Landing singer. Did they think we wouldn't notice or are they planning some non-book twists for his story line?

And - BABY DRAGONS! (Or Wyvrens, or whatever..). I was worried we'd be presented with some pitiful SyFy Channel renderings. I'm worried no more.

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I just want to say that "I" am Pip's mom and have been since 1989 :P

(Pip is the nickname I gave my son, Phillip---but because of his sister's speech problems, not his own. ;) )

I am Pip's mum!

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Loved it. Gave it a 9.

I really disliked the actor portraying Joffrey in the early episodes. I just thought it was poorly acted, though it was likely due in part to the way he looked didn't jibe with how I pictured him reading the series at all. He's gotten noticeably better as the episodes advanced and I thought he was GREAT in this final episode, especially the scene with the singer and then the following one with Sansa and the heads. My feelings about the actress portraying Sansa are almost identical to those I had for Joffrey: too wooden, not pretty enough, not "bubbly teen" enough. She did VERY well the last 3 episodes, and she nailed this final one. Lastly, I was VERY disappointed in the actress portraying of Mirri Maz Duur. Her inflections were like someone poorly faking an accent. And her face couldn't convey even basic emotion, even in her big monologue. It's too bad too, because visually, she was exactly the way I imagined her.

I loved the Scene with Mormont's speech to Jon as they head north through the wall. Great stuff.

The actress portraying Dany did really well in all her scenes in E10. Like others, I was a little put off by the night to day thing at the end, and her being bald after the fire would have been better, though I don't blame Emilia Clarke for not wanting to shave her head. It would be nice if she would have dyed those eyebrows to the same color as her hair. It's a little disconcerting during her close ups. The draperies should match the rug, so to speak.

The King in the North was good, I thought it could have been a little better, and would have been better placed later in the episode, perhaps between the Dany fire > dragons scenes. I love the Greatjon character from the books, and the actor playing him is doing excellent. I just wish he was about a foot taller, 50-100lbs heavier and with a much bushier Robert Baratheon-like beard. Another instance of my imagination fitting with the casting of HBO.

As always, the book is better than the TV/movie version. But honestly, I have been super-impressed with what they've done. Then again, I really didn't expect less from HBO. Good TV there.

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The actress portraying Dany did really well in all her scenes in E10. Like others, I was a little put off by the night to day thing at the end, and her being bald after the fire would have been better, though I don't blame Emilia Clarke for not wanting to shave her head. It would be nice if she would have dyed those eyebrows to the same color as her hair. It's a little disconcerting during her close ups. The draperies should match the rug, so to speak.

While it might not help your enjoyment of it it's perfectly possible to have naturally different colored hair and eyebrows. I went to school with a blond girl who had very dark eyebrows so it does happen and the Targaryens are pretty special so it's at the very least not unrealistic.

As for your final comment about the series it matches mine as well. The show has of course no chance to actually match the books since it's an inferior medium but it still managed to impress in it's own way.

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Just finished viewing as I'm the UK side of the Pond. This ep was absolutely brilliant! From the first dramatic scene - I'm so pleased they continued from last ep and didn't cut away from Ned's Death to somewhere else - to the end with Dany and the dragons, it hardly put a foot wrong. Well except for the obligatory naked Roz scene (now we get her washing her bits!) and Pycelle's rambling exposition, which just didn't seem to belong among the rest of the more epic scenes. I mean who cares if Pycelle isn't what he's pretending to be? who is? We can see they're all two-faced and deceitful....

But APART from that - excellent episode, wonderfully epic, lots of stirring and emotional scenes, beautifully acted all round - and having not been a book-Dany fan at all I wasn't expecting to like show-Dany so much - Emilia has really won me over in the last few eps. Sansa is much more sympathetic than in the book, I hated her forever, but Sophie is showing her as more nuanced and suffering. Jack Gleeson continues to amaze - what a brilliantly evil and hateful little git! His acting has been super!

The brothers bringing Jon back - the hair on the back of my neck stood up when they recited the vow; King in the North - another such moment! And good grief Iain Glen is one of the sexiest men in the show - he should wear half-open shirts all the time...(just sayin'....).

Jaime looking half-ashamed when confronted by Catelyn; Tywin and Tyrion "you're my SON"; still not impressed by sour-faced Shae; LF and Varys sparring - though the last scene of theirs was funnier; poor little Arya having to join that frightening band of no-goods (and her hair is so cute!); Gendry looking tough; Bran and Rickon in Winterfell where WINTER IS COMING!! And the DRAGONS!!! really well done! Beautiful CGI. Emilia was so graceful and proud! I could go on and on....

Well done to D&D for this one - and it beautifully sets up the storylines for S2. Can't wait!

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Well, nitpick mode on:

Where do I start? Firstly, there's the ... oh, I don't have the heart for that. This was excellent! Yes, there were some changes from the book, but I fully accept that it's an adaptation. Adaptations have to have some changes - the medium is so different. The ones that annoy me are changes that detract, changes that are unnecessary or gratuitous, changes that throw you out of the world its trying to depict. In my opinion, there was none of that in this episode and some of the changes added to the storyline.

Yoren, "Arry", Hot Pie and Lommy, Gendry ... all worked very well (my wife commented that Arya is going to have to start binding her chest to pass for a boy much longer, though, but that's not a criticism of the adaptation or Maisie Williams)

The grief of Cat and Robb - worked very well.

The Winterfell scenes worked very well. The little lad playing Rickon was very impressive for such a young actor - he carried off his scene perfectly.

The Night's Watch scenes were excellent - I'd feared we might lose these ones in the adaptation but they were very powerful. The recitation of the oath to Jon genuinely got my blood tingling. The scene of them riding beyond the Wall was great.

Joffrey was perfect - someone give that kid an Emmy. The scene with Sansa and the heads - and her near-attack on Joffrey (only seen - and stopped - by the Hound) worked very, very well. Plus, it set up the Hound for next season.

I'd learned that there was a Ros sexposition scene. With Pycelle, no less, and when it started, my heart started to fall. But it actually worked - getting over the history of Aerys, showing Pycelle's pretences, without degenerating into a soft-core porn flick. No cringing required. Great relief from me.

The King in the North. Yes!

Dany - worked very well. I had feared that the dragons wouldn't come out too well, but that was unfounded.

I have no choice but to rate this a solid 10/10, like Episode 8. An excellent capstone to the season. Kudos to Benioff and weiss and all who worked on it.

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That scene with Pycelle and Ros was weird ... they could have cut that really. Lots of emotion in that episode though.

Another case of "poor wee bran" on the go - he lost his dad as well now. And the scene with Catelyn and Robb was heart wrenching. They really nailed those kind of scenes.

Can't believe it's already over for a season. Give it an 8. It's odd rating episodes, because virtually every episode has its moments, good and bad.

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But that's exactly how it plays out in the book, so what's the complaint? She DOES burn MMD in the books, and the mad king DID go crazy and start burning people alive.

Please re-read what I wrote. This is an observation regarding how the (inserted, not in the books) Pycelle scene reflects on what we see happening with Dany, and casts a more ominous light on it than we might otherwise view it in.

I suppose you could say that Dany burning MMD immediately made you think of the Mad King in the books, and if that's the case, well I guess that aspect of the scene was superfluous to you. I certainly did not make that connection in the book, and I thought the Pycelle scene making that connection worked well to do just that.

[EDIT] Just to make sure this is clear, I liked the scene, this wasn't complaining.

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I gave it a 9/10. Not the best episode of the season but certainly up there with the best ones.

The reason for it not being the best for me is the fact that there was too much non-reader stuff in it again. The conversation between Baelish and Littlefinger, even though I love them both in the series, was layed on too thick imo. As well as the Pycelle scene. I understand why they have to do it but can't help but dislike those scenes though. Maybe on my rewatch I'll enjoy this season more. Some more nitpicky stuff. I though MMD delivered some of her lines a bit hasty.. And one of my favorite all times lines was delivered differently from the book. Wtf was that about. Jaime saying "There are no men like me, only me" It's "There's only me"?

Why in the world would they shorten that sentence? I think the original works just fine.

Apart from that there was a lot to love about this episode. I was on the edge of my seat and scared to death towards the end because the scene with the dragons was going to be a make or break scene. If they had looked crappy that would have been the end of the show for me but they nailed it to perfection. Really spot on, loved it.

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I just want to say that "I" am Pip's mom and have been since 1989 :P

(Pip is the nickname I gave my son, Phillip---but because of his sister's speech problems, not his own. ;) )

You win. I've only been Pipsmom since 1991 when I got my first Yorkie, Sir Pippen of North Creek :fencing:

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Ten. Outstanding. The actors are really hitting their stride with these characters. Littlefinger's exchange with Varys was gold.

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Why do people keep saying "the actor playing Joffrey"?

Jack Gleeson fyi, and I think he's kicking ass in the role and I hope to see him in more stuff in the future.

And, oh yeah, 9/10. Is Ros the only whore in Westeros?

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8/10 for me. There was way too much departure from the book. Overall the ep felt unbalanced to me. Mixed feelings about the ending... in some ways it was really cool and dramatic but it bordered on cheesy.

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I loved it: give it a 9, last episode was a 10. I wish Arry's scene had been longer. And Gendry's attitude is spot on. :cool4:

Was also very impressed with Robb's actor. One of the best scene imo when he was slashing up the tree.

Season 2 is going to be great.

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It's such a silly nitpick. And if you think it's a coincidence that the one HBO-invented character just so happens to be taking the brunt of the fan backlash, you're mistaken. People hate her for no other reason than the fact that she isn't in the books. That's it, and nothing more.

Well, thank you for telling me what I think. I have seen the light!

Or else there are legitimate complaints about the sheer incredulity of a random lowborn whore from the North sleeping with almost every major character?

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Well, thank you for telling me what I think. I have seen the light!

Or else there are legitimate complaints about the sheer incredulity of a random lowborn whore from the North sleeping with almost every major character?

I agree with you about Ros being the source of some legitimate complaints, but I would quibble with the characteristic 'random' in this context. She's TARGETING the players. Whether for Varys, Littlefinger or someone else, I cannot say. But it isn't random.

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My first 9.

Oddly I don't think it was the strongest episode, but it's the episode where I had the fewest nitpicks. It only failed to get a 10 because every episode with a scene with Ros's vagina gets an automatic -1. Not because I have a problem with seeing it per se, it's very nice, but it just seems like tokenism at this point (not to be confused with Tolkienism). Ros is there so they can flash some occasional bush. Hey! we haven't had bush for a few episodes, quick let's write another Ros scene. Ahh, that's better. Right, on with the story.

I liked The Wall, I liked Dany's scenes, I liked Arya's scenes, I liked Sansa's scenes, I liked the San-San interactions, I liked the Tyrion scenes, I liked Catelyn v Jaime, I liked Bran's scenes and I really liked the dragons. It was a very good finale.

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