LadyMary Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Yes I did read your post. You said,No, not all Targaryens are immune to fire or heat all the time. Otherwise Viserys wouldn't have been killed instantly by the molten gold. Here's the Citadel page that confirms it. I read your post and disagree with it. Your point is that you think R+L=J because even though he has no dragon traits, he is still Rhaegars son because lots of other Targs don't have dragon traits.I disagree with your points.Mormant,Please correct me if I have the wrong impression, but when you say “I disagree with your points” I interpret that to mean “I disagree with your points…because I don’t want to believe the theory of R+L=J”. Is that the correct interpretation? In any case, (just speaking for myself here) it’s perfectly fine to disagree, to not be convinced by the evidence or to not believe a theory for whatever reason. There are some people who have honestly stated that they don’t like the idea that R+L=J and don’t want it to be true, whether they find the evidence to be persuasive or not. That’s fine too. But I can’t help being curious about how adamantly you try to “disprove” this theory, including setting up Strawman arguments and then disagreeing with the rebuttals of those original fallacies. From what I’ve seen posted, I don’t think anybody here has a problem with disagreements about what Jon’s R+L parentage may mean for his Hero’s journey, or his survival or the future of his world. As an example, I do think R+L=J but I’m not convinced, as some here are, that will mean Jon is a true-born son of Rhaegar, or that he has a claim on the Iron Throne or even Winterfell, or that he’s the Prince That Was Promised/Azor Ahai (I think Dany is the PTWP/AA). I think people knowing the truth about Jon’s (R+L) parentage may actually endanger Jon more than anything else and further complicate his life. As a fan who is invested in Jon's story, I personally hope he gets to have a better existence than spending it stuck in a cold, miserable place like the Wall for the rest of his life, but that doesn’t mean he ever will get to leave the Nights Watch to do something else with his life or even survive to see the Spring. Anyway, I just feel like debate about fan theories is all good when we all don’t know what GRRM plans. I do think that when something is explicitly “canon” or what the author has actually said, it’s not really subject to debate. We may all be wrong about our respective theories and will have a good laugh about it later. I just feel like this debate shouldn’t be a “war” with the sides armed with verbal pitchforks and torches – lol. Just my 2 cents... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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