Tammy Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 People really care more about the sword than all the gratuitus rape?really? :bowdown: Maybe we as readers get as desensitized to it as the characters seem to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
house stark and baratheon Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 yes them things are bad but would be common in a war especially one with so many sides... but reforging ice was just wrong.. also another thing that angered me was theon turncloak and taking winterfell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Girl in Winterfell Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 You're totally right, and you should check out this thread.I've been to the thread and I've laughed and everything but the fact that there are worst people than Sansa doesn't change the way I feel about her. I said she irritates me, not that she is the source of all evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
house stark and baratheon Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 also i just remembered this.. when the walders were picking on hodor also when theon turncloak had his ironmen beat hodor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarkWard Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 All the cruelties of the Bastard of Bolton. Even if it is Theon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 TyshaPiaInnkeeper's daughterSansa's... humiliationsLadyThose all made me angry.TBH I can't remember my reaction to Ice being melted down (and haven't got to it yet on my re-read, nor have I reached ADWD, obviously); things like the Red wedding were more exasperation than anger.There were probably others, but those are the stand-outs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Poem Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Every single thing what did Ramsay. I hate him! Monster!Red Wedding, Robb's, Grey Wind's, Catelyn's fate.Sansa's stupidity: Arya, Mycah, Joffrey. Lady. Her good meaning about Cersei and Joff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daenerys snow Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 the moments that made me angry? the murder of lord eddard starkthe descrecation of icesansa stark turning all drooling fan-girl over joffrey and betraying her father to the brotherfuckerthe red weddingjon snow being stabbed by his night's watch brothersall of stannis & melisandre's nightfires where people were being burned to deathmad king aerys' murder of lord rickard and his son brandontheon going turncloak on winterfellmoment that amused me?cersei being called "brotherfucker" and "whore" by the smallfolk of king's landing.the bastard of bolton's slaughter of rodrick cassel and the forces he gathered to retake winterfellmoment that made me sick?the story of ramsay snow's crimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1234567 Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Generally I can find something every 50 pages or so that makes my blood boil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuliginEyes Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 So many things.Lady being killed - arghh, just tell the truth Sansa, and/or refuse and turn away from Robert, Ned!!Catelyn - so much of what she did/does makes my blood boil. Convincing Ned to go down to King's Landing. Kidnapping Tyrion on impulse!! (way to be a major factor for setting a war in motion, Catelyn). Being so convinced she is all about her family, and then not returning to Winterfell where she left her youngest and most vulnerable sons, and not trying hard enough with Robb or going to King's Landing to try and rescue her two daughters... 12 year old Sansa being beaten by the Kingsguard - and it's lucky nothing worse happened - and Arya off on her own - and she doesn't even try to hammer the point with Robb?? I would be going out of my mind if I were their mother.Summer + Shaggydog being kept away from Bran and Rickon a lot of the time from Clash of Kings on.. Catelyn's attitude towards Jon - :tantrum: JOFFREY.Cersei and her vicious attitude towards Tyrion - argh! He is so so so much smarter and able than her and she can never see it.Tyrion not fleeing King's Landing with Shae and setting up home somewhere far far away.... come on, he could've tried!Tyrion's trial and Shae's testimony. Tyrion's murder of Shae. Made me angry - and broke my heart.The Red Wedding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillio Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 as above, andwhen Arya had to send Nymeria away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Jon Connington Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Catelyn's attitude towards Jon - :tantrum: Ned deserves some blame for that one. He should have told her the truth and asked her to keep her mouth shut about it. It's pretty disgraceful the way Ned handled things with Jon, truth be told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-jelena- Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Well she's the one who started the whole thing right? it was her fault the Red Wedding took place when she released Jaime and sent Robb's kingdom in a downward spiralYeah, Robb marrying Jeyne got nothing to do with it. Or with Frey and Bolton being greedy opportunists. After all, Jaime was sooo important to Lord Frey and Roose who refused to imprison him again.and she's hunting anybody who shes ever disliked or had just a tiny bit of deception against her, like Brienne and Jaime, and innocent Pod? She never gives the people she accuses any chance of reasoning, shes a bitch! of all the people who had to be resurrected..........Jaime shoving her child off the window must be a tiny bit deception against her.If Robb still had Jaime captive, do you think Tywin would risk his son's life and still continue with the Red Wedding? I think Tywin desperately looked at Jaime as his true heir whether or not he was in the KG I think if Catelyn didn't release Jaime the Frey's wouldn't have been bold enough to do the RW by themselves and risk their alliance with the Lannisters over Jaime's life. When she released Jaime she created a domino effect of hurt on Robb's kingdom that started it all from Bolton's betrayal and the Frey's plotting vengeance and maybe even the loss of Winterfell.Everybody should see that Catelyn was the cause of this war when she kidnapped Tyrion and remained ignorant to his innocence that got Ned killed and afterwards she lost the war when she released Jaime etc. all a while being a bitch to every person she doesn't love. She ranks #1 as my most hated characters, ever.I'm amazed how will people go to miles to justify villains' behavior but characters who are good at heart are irredeemable.Catelyn - so much of what she did/does makes my blood boil. Convincing Ned to go down to King's Landing. Kidnapping Tyrion on impulse!! (way to be a major factor for setting a war in motion, Catelyn). Being so convinced she is all about her family, and then not returning to Winterfell where she left her youngest and most vulnerable sons, and not trying hard enough with Robb or going to King's Landing to try and rescue her two daughters... 12 year old Sansa being beaten by the Kingsguard - and it's lucky nothing worse happened - and Arya off on her own - and she doesn't even try to hammer the point with Robb?? I would be going out of my mind if I were their mother.Would you care to decide here? Is she bad because she didn't stay in Winterfell or because she didn't march to KL to save her daughters?Catelyn's attitude towards Jon - :tantrum: I've learned early enough that that is still the biggest crime any character has ever done in this books.OTMany things make me angry. The monstrous behavior of some characters mostly (rapes, threats of being rape, mutilation, torturing, killing women who slept with wolfs or lions or really didn't have too much of choice from the start,...). Also, forging the Ice, giving Riverrun to Emmon Frey, not listening the pleas of the NW,... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuthmoses Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 The mutilation of Robb's body was the one that stood out above all others for me I got a sick feeling in my stomach it was so bad. DEATH to the Freys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djhdjh Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Robb marrying Jeyne. Idiot. You felt for him because he was a good guy trying to do the right thing but it was so manifestly stupid. I find those are the angry moments - when your preferred characters mess up for themselves. Maybe it's because through studying history I'm used to thinking in the context of the time but I'm not that angered as some seem to be by medieval people acting medievally. That's how their world is and it's only if they go beyond that, as the Freys and Ramsay among others clearly do, that I get angered (and even then it's just bad people being bad, boo hoo). It doesn't mean I can't realise the other things are atrocious.Edit: The exception is when anyone calls Jamie "Kingslayer" because they owe so much to him for that act. But that's just because it annoys me that they don't know and he gets crap he doesn't deserve. So it's anger on his behalf not against someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
house stark and baratheon Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 if jamie didnt kill the king aerys.. ned would have taken him prisoner then robert would have beaten him to death with his war hammer it would only take one stroke but it would make a bloody mess lol... jamie should have just held aerys there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
house stark and baratheon Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 either that or the quiet wolf would turn wild imagining the things aerys done to his brother and father and butcher him there and then but highly unlikely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Dog Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 The truth about Tysha and Tywin/Jaime's lies that led to Tyrion taking part in her gang-rape.I can't think of anything that made me angrier or more disgusted. I am still thrilled that Tywin is dead and that Tyrion was the one who killed him. A shame he can only kill him once. Tywin deserved a slow, painful death but at least the one he got was humiliating. :agree: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Dog Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Tyrion's trial and Shae's testimony. Tyrion's murder of Shae. Made me angry - and broke my heart.Shae's testimony against Tyrion absolutely infuriated me. Yes, of course she was bribed/coerced by Cersei, but I doubt Cersei had to work very hard. And Shae knew about Tysha, so she must have known how doubly devastating her betrayal would be to Tyrion.I can't decide which made me happier: Tyrion murdering Shae, or Tyrion murdering Tywin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Dog Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Nymeria scratching Joffrey and the fallout.I was so furious at Sansa cooing over Joffrey even after he had revealed himself as a craven, bullying crybaby; and at Joffrey for demanding everyone be punished except the real culprit - himself; and at Robert for accepting Joffrey's lies when he damned well knew better; and at Sansa for lying for Joffrey against Arya (and Sansa richly deserved losing Lady for it, although Lady deserved a better protector); and at Ned for going along ...So furious I STILL cannot watch those scenes from the show. :tantrum: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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