Zoë Sumra Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I quote from TG's facebook post, as linked to in this post in this thread:We hope we've accomplished what we set out to do and we understand some people are disappointed in not being able to buy a traditional/mass market hardcover. However, that was not for us to offer. The publishing industry got together and colluded to restrict authors from breaking apart books by format. We cannot offer an ebook ourselves and still have a publisher print a mass copy. They demand to have the rights and royalties from the ebook as a package contract. We had a choice, give the book to a publisher or offer it ourselves, without the mass printing.There was a third choice. 1) Give the book to a publisher. 2) Self-pub as ebook with minimal mass print. The unwritten 3) Self pub as ebook plus mass print. With annoyed fans out there, denying the existence of that third choice is dishonesty.If TG doesn't want to become a one-man publisher, fine. If he tells people he just doesn't want to be bothered with all the crap involved, fine. If he denies that it is possible at all, as he did in this post, not fine. I stated in my previous post the reasons I think it could have been possible. For a big name author to negotiate a separate deal with bookshop buying managers would be difficult but plausible (I still don't understand your logic when you claim that this would damage bookshops' deals with publishers. How? A bookshop's deal with Harper Collins doesn't damage its deal with the company for which I work): he would have had to give the bookshops a bigger cut, but if he wanted to get the title out there in dead tree (if he wanted), them's the breaks. Easier would have been running a few thousand copies (as in, a small number of thousand, not 50K) and selling them, for a small premium over ebook but not at collector edition prices, on a self-run website. Doesn't this guy have millions of readers? More than enough to absorb the whole of a, say, 3000 copy self-sold dead tree run.Given that I'm not a fan, I don't know why I care, but I do. Maybe because someone like him going for it in dead tree version would be of eventual benefit to indie publishing because of the precedents that could have been set. No one wants to break trail, 'cuz it's hard. I get this. I get all the reasons why he wouldn't have wanted to do it, namely the difficult. But difficult is not impossible, and it's wrong to claim that it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodomens Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I get all the reasons why he wouldn't have wanted to do it, namely the difficult. But difficult is not impossible, and it's wrong to claim that it is.That is where our opinion (and possibly experience) differ. It is impossible to pull off what you are suggesting (pointless as well), and what TG has already done is ballsy and seriously breaking trail, as-is. I wouldn't even be arguing the point if you weren't throwing the kitchen sink and the house at this. Honestly, your solutions are pie in the sky and not feasible. Not just hard, but not at all feasible. I trust you have some experience on the production side of things, but I'm sensing a serious lack of real know-how when it comes to getting product on shelves. You've suggested as much already.It's an odd point to keep arguing. TG says it's not possible because of X. You explain a concept of possibly, maybe, taking an incredibly arduous and pointless path from A to D, C to Z, and somehow you might still get X -- and that's TG lying at face.Come on now... we know it ain't like that. And it's wrong to keep claiming it is.Drinks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTinyKittens Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 As a life-chooser, I do not ask but rather DEMAND a reading copy of this book. My review - posted for the enlightenment of these dirty pinkos - will not stray from the true and bloody path. I will give this book the proper Objectivist review it deserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grack21 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 The madness begins..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodomens Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 As a life-chooser, I do not ask but rather DEMAND a reading copy of this book. My review - posted for the enlightenment of these dirty pinkos - will not stray from the true and bloody path. I will give this book the proper Objectivist review it deserves.*eyes WarthofNederlandsVoetbal with suspicion* ...What's the secret handshake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacuna Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 *eyes WarthofNederlandsVoetbal with suspicion* ...What's the secret handshake?I don't know, but I bet it involves tight leather uniforms, kidnapping and almost-rape. :uhoh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTinyKittens Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 There is no secret handshake, or at least I do not trouble myself with it. I am a Free Man, and you do not have the Right to gainsay my, er, Right to demand such a copy. Don't make my Thing rise up, now. I will deliver the Swift Jaw-Kick of Righteousness unto your Face if you stand in the path that I have Chosen. (Don't you see how fun this would be? ;)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jussi Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Cover art:http://www.terrygoodkind.com/book-thefirstconfessor/tfc_bookcover.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alytha Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 No chainmail bikinis? I'm disappointed :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerec Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I'll be disappointed if there's not a two page description of how the confessor power works and how it feels in every chapter. Also I hope they use that prostitute teleportation system that is like quicksilver rapture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exa Inova Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Ah, the book on how they turned women into tools is about to be released. The Arch Bishop will read and review it for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrja Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Personally, I find that chick's deadened gaze far more unsettling than chainmail bikinis! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datepalm Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 The way the "Terry Goodkind" weird shadows her eyes, stamping on her face... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkynJay Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Her eyes are yellow! That is how you know she is special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myshkin Posted June 29, 2012 Author Share Posted June 29, 2012 Or jaundiced. Or a long time junkie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrja Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 I'd do her.He's obviously hoping that she will succeed in seducing potential readers..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreverlad Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Hey all, long time no see. Missed you folk. Goodomens, welcome back!Whatever his reasons, I applaud GK for taking the self-publishing route. His books may have fallen out of favor with me, but I'm all for authors having a DIY mentality.Personally, I think the book should be retitled Magda Searus, The Confessor's First. I always got a kick out of how uncomfortable the collective (in grammar only, I swear!) /posessive noun worked for Wizard's First Rule. There's a symmetry missing. Oh well.As I skipped reading the last Sword of Truth Richard and Kahlan novel, I might have to give this one a go. I'm about all caught up on my reading, otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Hmmm...if nothing else, this whole conversation of TG's purported conspiracy made me look up some stuff. I've not seen anything specific referencing 1999 as a benchmark date, but this article and this article about a lot of the same thing, talk about the Big 6 publishers and 2010 and Apple and the current DOJ lawsuit...don't know if it's actually part of what TG's trying to get at though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodomens Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 No chainmail bikinis? I'm disappointed :(How do you know? Artwork only shows Magda's face.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodomens Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Hey all, long time no see. Missed you folk. Goodomens, welcome back!Thank you! *continues to eye the butter platter with suspicion* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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