bully Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I have a little theory regarding the Tyrells, but I don't know if this is the proper channel for this post. I'm putting it here because it involves a couple details from the Arianne II chapter discussed in this forum, but feels too off topic and speculative to add to that thread.I find the Tyrells fascinating, but I don't know how deep or multifaceted they are. They seem largely unified (even if Mace is left in the dark a lot) and completely fixated on gaining power/the throne. After all, the Tyrell words are "Growing Strong." First they backed Aerys during Robert's Rebellion. In my eyes, Robert's side fought for honor, those who backed Aerys did so for duty, or for power. After all, who would have ever believed the Targs would be unseated? When Robert won he pardoned the Tyrells in exchange for their fealty, which places them in the power camp, rather than duty. Then in GoT Renly and Loras seem to have a pet plan to wed Margery to Robert based on a supposed resemblance to Lyana. After Robert is gone they choose Joff, and off Joff to get to the more tractable Tommen. Even Littlefinger respects Olenna as a powerful player of the game, and I think Margaery is Olenna's protege.Now for speculation: my personal opinion is that Margaery will be found innocent, and Loras' injuries are not what we've been led to believe. The Tyrells are still growing strong. However, the power they've aligned themselves with, that of House Lannister, is not. Here I want to point out something I've noticed about those who were pardoned after Robert's Rebellion - they seem to still be Targ loyalists. (Ser Grandfather and Lord Eunuch jump to mind, as we see them backing the Targs, again or still.) Even further, it was the first Aegon who raised the Tyrells to lords of the Reach over the Florents. We all know that there is an impending return of House Targaryen to Westeros. While Dany's return is the one we've been anticipating, my guess is that the arrival of "Aegon" with JC and the GC will bring about another 'change of heart' for the Tyrells. From what I've read JC & co and the Tyrells are converging on Storms End. I think it's here that the Tyrells rejoin the "Targs" and maybe even arrange to marry Margaery to "Aegon." They value power over honor, so I can see them joining forces with Connington even if they doubt YG's authenticity. Highgarden + GC would be a formidable alliance. It seems vaguely possible to me that Dorne or the Vale might join with that front as well, though I'm torn in that regard. Good cases can be made for and against a Dornish alliance, and while the Tyrells seem to have a good relationship with LF, I think his sights are elsewhere, and tangling LF's plans with Varys' feels messy.Any thoughts on the future of the Tyrells? or the events at Storms End?Well, i won't say the Tyrells really catch my mind often, but there are a few things we can assume:Fist; Margeary will not be queen. We know about the prophecy Cersei heard and is afraid of, and it says that a queen more beautyful than her will come and cast aside all she hold dear, along with her Valonqr... Scanning this you almost say: "damn, it's Margaery!", but thinking through, we realize that regardless of what is the vericdict over margaery, she won't rule, because she is not this queen od the prophecy... It's Daenarys!!! We can say this cause, Valonquar is "younger brother" and tyrion is off seeking daenarys...So, until Daenarys come, Cersei will still be queen. Now is even more clear, cause she has no one else to cow her to rightness. she'll most like kill all who raises a finger on her, and well...I'm looking forward to read Cersei being raped by Tyrion... but anyway...Second: It's not about the tyrells but, we can almost certainly say that Aegon is bound to fail too. Just as Stannis. They will have a few small victories, but...they just don't know they failed already. Stannis built all he believe upon a lie, he thinks he's the promised prince, but he ain't even a prince....He'll heard about the dragons and his teeth will crack and crush.... And Aegon, poor boy, is yet too arrogant and experienceless, is another boy king, only not so Cersei-ish...he won't triumph alone... but he can survive if Daenarys speed up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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