Is Ros the only character in the show that is not in the books?

[WillWork4NinjaPowers]

She is mentioned in the book, just never her name. Men tell secrets to whores. That's her purpose, back story. I have no problem seeing a hot nude chick on screen. I wonder if some people would have the same problem with her if she was a fully clothed Septa. The Littlefinger scene was a little too long, but any other time, I didn't really have a problem. My boyfriend certainly enjoyed her scenes. That's the main reason I see as to why anyone would severely dislike Roz, and i's jealousy over a boyfriend getting all worked up over her scenes.

[Verboten]

That's just ridiculous. I hated her scenes and the LF one, despite finding them rather arousing. How useless and grating her character is has nothing to do with her supposed sex appeal. If I wanted gratuitous sex, I would be watching porn, not GoT.

[mediocre cheese]

Yeah devoted fans of a book have no reason to dislike added characters. I can't think of any reason why a character with no back story, no plot line, no familial connections to any other characters, and who exists solely as an orifice would be disliked other than jealousy.

I guess a lot of fans of the books, both male and female just really want to give peter dinkalage a sloppy blowjob and are envious when someone else gets to do it.

[lady crackhead]

She is mentioned in the book, just never her name. Men tell secrets to whores. That's her purpose, back story. I have no problem seeing a hot nude chick on screen. I wonder if some people would have the same problem with her if she was a fully clothed Septa. The Littlefinger scene was a little too long, but any other time, I didn't really have a problem. My boyfriend certainly enjoyed her scenes. That's the main reason I see as to why anyone would severely dislike Roz, and i's jealousy over a boyfriend getting all worked up over her scenes.

Evidently they have no such thing as porn in your red state. Id show you some but Im afraid Id blow. your. mind.

Men tell secrets to whores.

Yes. In the movies.

Oh boy.... :rolleyes:

[WillWork4NinjaPowers]

Evidently they have no such thing as porn in your red state. Id show you some but Im afraid Id blow. your. mind.

Yes. In the movies.

Oh boy.... :rolleyes:

The whores here are ugly. And everything in the movies is real life.

[Ghost Rider]

They teased Jon about how he didn't like girls as much as he liked his hair which was hilaaaarious and spoke to Jon's vanity more than anything. Only Theon was really talking filthy and well, that's Theon. Where was Robb being filthy about anything? I don't see it.

The scene only emphasizes how grossly out of character ShowJonRobbTheon are compared with their book counterparts. I don't remember Jon even once thinking about his looks, one of the reasons actually why we don't know much about his looks - compare that to real vain people like Cersei.

As for Jon/Robb/Sam being too young to still be a virgin or to be ashamed about sex, that's ridiculous. Their characters are only 17 turning 18. Seventeen is definitely not too young to be a virgin in any time period, and I know men who are over 20, some virgins some not, who still have deep, deep issues surrounding sex. Healthy/open attitudes about sex are rare now, and would be extremely rare back then. Such attitudes would be considered immoral and wrong. Triple that in Jon's case since he's got such issues surrounding his bastardy.

They might want to pass off these characters as 17 turning 18, but they can't fool me. They are pretty obviously mid 20ish. I don't complain about the higher ages of the girls, since their actions are not so strongly based on their ages, but for Jon and Robb it doesn't make sense. Theon is a different case since he is 19 in the book, so he's about right.

While I agree that 17 is not too young to be a virgin, 25ish is. I know that there are men irl who didn't have sex til that age, knew some myself - and they usually are weirdos. You're dead wrong that such attitudes would be considered immoral in the past or in the ASOIAF universe either. See, how it is pretty normal to have sex at an early age, to go to whores or other random sex. In our own history, people would be confronted with sex much earlier then nowadays, since they often didn't have rooms of their own. They had a completely different sense of shame. The cursed Ross would be rather representative of it actually.

[Arrogant Bastard]

They might want to pass off these characters as 17 turning 18, but they can't fool me. They are pretty obviously mid 20ish. I don't complain about the higher ages of the girls, since their actions are not so strongly based on their ages, but for Jon and Robb it doesn't make sense. Theon is a different case since he is 19 in the book, so he's about right.

Yes, Robb and Jon look older than seventeen or eighteen on the show, but I think that's something that requires the viewer to suspend disbelief. The two actors played the roles well for the most part, and were probably preferable to casting teenagers in the role that might not be proficient in acting. And, as you said, it wouldn't make story sense for Robb or Jon to be 23-25 so they just call them eighteen. Gendry also doesn't look enough like Robert where it's believable that Ned knew who he was after one long look, but that needs to be included and there's not really any better way to do it.

[mediocre cheese]

Yeah jon and robb being 17 requires a suspension of disbelief, both of them look 23 (which the actors are). But there is a lot of suspension of disbelief as mentioned above, Mark Addy looks more like humpty-dumpty with a beard than 6'6 Robert Baratheon a god gone to fat. And the great dothraki horde looks more like a few meandering horsemen than a city on the march.

[lyvyathan]

Alton Lannister (probably Cleos Frey), Kovarro (a new bloodrider for Dany), and possibly a few others as they see fit due to whatever reason, i.e. casting, budget, scheduling, etc... Also, they're changing Asha Greyjoy's name to Yara, so viewers don't confuse her with Osha (Bran's wildling).

Asha's name gets changed because of a minor character? Good grief. Couldn't they change it to something more similar? Like Astrida,Asharah etc.. The change to Yara sounds so random.

[lyvyathan]

Yeah jon and robb being 17 requires a suspension of disbelief, both of them look 23 (which the actors are). But there is a lot of suspension of disbelief as mentioned above, Mark Addy looks more like humpty-dumpty with a beard than 6'6 Robert Baratheon a god gone to fat. And the great dothraki horde looks more like a few meandering horsemen than a city on the march.

I disagree. Mark Addy was great as the drunk king. Look at Henry 8th. He started out as one of the most handsome and strongest knights of England - but he bloated up as he grew older. Heck, you should see my brother-in-law.

[sheriffkiller]

Ros is cool. It's not like she does anything to change the plotline (not even a bit) She is just an expo-hooker. Since characters thoughts are read on the page but can't be spoke out loud on the screen for no reason, the characters tell her their backstories/plans/ambitions etc. So she is an acceptable break from adaptation.

[daenarys]

She is mentioned in the book, just never her name. Men tell secrets to whores. That's her purpose, back story. I have no problem seeing a hot nude chick on screen. I wonder if some people would have the same problem with her if she was a fully clothed Septa. The Littlefinger scene was a little too long, but any other time, I didn't really have a problem. My boyfriend certainly enjoyed her scenes. That's the main reason I see as to why anyone would severely dislike Roz, and i's jealousy over a boyfriend getting all worked up over her scenes.

Yeah I pretty much think like you and other posts above :

The book is a lot about rape/camp prostitute and stuff, they just simplified the thing by creating ... well... Ros, she kind of represent all those prostitutes, I think it s better to have one character with a name and some kind of backstory than anonymous raped/fucked girl everywhere. And if you find the whole prostitute thing gross, maybe you shouldn t read the book first ( I m thinking about Pia s story which is really gross ). Krackenhead I bet you are american, so conservative, maybe you should watch abc family instead of HBO.

[mediocre cheese]

I disagree. Mark Addy was great as the drunk king. Look at Henry 8th. He started out as one of the most handsome and strongest knights of England - but he bloated up as he grew older. Heck, you should see my brother-in-law.

I get that people feel this way, but he didn't look like a great athlete gone to seed, he looked like a fat kid who grew up. Robert towers over ned, whereas Addy is shorter than sean bean. But its a suspension of disbelief I wasn't really bothered by it. Look at rome, none of the characters looked anything like the historical figures they were playing

[lyvyathan]

I get that people feel this way, but he didn't look like a great athlete gone to seed, he looked like a fat kid who grew up. Robert towers over ned, whereas Addy is shorter than sean bean. But its a suspension of disbelief I wasn't really bothered by it. Look at rome, none of the characters looked anything like the historical figures they were playing

Hmm, I thought the casting for Rome was brilliant imho.

There also might be a problem in casting characters to historical representations. I give you Cleopatra for example.

How many people would view an actress that resembled that coin - as opposed to the glorious Elizabeth Taylor?

:D

Having said that - I agree with you that Mark Addy was too short. But he still played the character to perfection nonetheless.

I'm sure John Rhys-Davis (who played Gimili in Lord of the Rings) would have done a much better representation - and he has the built too. Anyways...

[Arrogant Bastard]

Hmm, I thought the casting for Rome was brilliant imho.

There also might be a problem in casting characters to historical representations. I give you Cleopatra for example.

How many people would view an actress that resembled that coin - as opposed to the glorious Elizabeth Taylor?

:D

Having said that - I agree with you that Mark Addy was too short. But he still played the character to perfection nonetheless.

I'm sure John Rhys-Davis (who played Gimili in Lord of the Rings) would have done a much better representation - and he has the built too. Anyways...

I don't think averagecheese is complaining about the casting for either GoT or Rome. I could be wrong, but I think he/she is saying that even though Mark Addy doesn't look like a great warrior gone to fat (he just looks like a fat guy) or the actors in Rome don't look like their historical counterparts, it doesn't really matter because as a viewer one suspends disbelief.

[mediocre cheese]

Yes, arrogant bastard put it well.

On cleopatra, its funny, people assume she was a great beauty because Caeser and Mark antony had children with her, but Plutarch says she wasn't particularly good looking, but had good mannerisms. Cicero, the only writer who actually saw her to describe her (plutarch and cassius dio said she was pretty, but they wrote nearly a century after she was around) said she was ugly.