mor2 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Yes, I know that this explanation is given, but for me it's not satisfactory. Sure, the NW man will not involve himself on behalf of that family if he hasn't got one. Though: as we know everybody at the Wall already has families! They have parents, siblings, they may even have a wife or a son. The NW then expects them to forsake these families who are far away from them and kind of pretend they don't exist. Which is quite unrealistic as we have seen in Jon's case. And Jon is a pretty honorable guy.Now instead of having these families far away, let's imagine, they have them at the Wall. Why would they then be unwilling to support the NW? There would be whole families in support of the NW instead of just the men, enabling these men to enjoy true feelings of happiness. And they would have a much better reason to protect the Wall then just a vow (words are wind!), they'd protect their families. To most people their families are much more valuable then an oath.sure normally it would be so, but lets put it bluntly the Wall has always been considered a backwater,cold shit hole, with civilization being hundreds of leags away in the warm south and it's purpose is defending against some imaginary foe, some barbarians. You seem to think that people want to go the wall, but as you seen since Aegon conquest, that hasnt been the case, from over 5000 men Castle black alone, we are left with less than 1000 men total.The watch stood 8000 years, because of those vows, it was the "honorable retirement" option, which people were offered rather than the headsman block. with time it seemed like more than that, regarded with honor and duty but overall it was always a "jail" and when less nobles/knights was forced there it lost it's popularity, so you can argue that those vows dont make sense or crule but they are what that kept this organization alive for much longer than any other.another argument could be made that today, after aegon conquest, this rule dont make much sense as it was proven by the watch gradual dwindling in power(Brothers and people in the gifts), especially Now after their demise in the Fist of the first men and the Others threat, they just dont have any choice if they want to survive and with no solutions other than the wildlings convinently sitting on their porch, it's just a no brainier.edited, to deal with my crappy english. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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