Yeade Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Eira, I honestly don't know that much about the noble houses of the Vale, lol. Or anywhere else, for that matter! My speculations about an extended conspiracy to restore the Starks to power across all of Robb's former kingdom and the Vale is almost entirely based on what I perceive as GRRM's narrative need to begin tying up dangling political loose ends in the parts of Westeros bound to be hit by the Others first. Imminent annihilation by legendary ice zombies tends to put a hold on everything except survival, I imagine, Machiavellian scheming included, no matter how murderous.As such, I figure the Boltons, Freys, and Littlefinger are done for starting about midway through TWOW, with Littlefinger hanging on the longest and Euron successfully toppled from the Seastone Chair in absentia, if not dead somewhere in Essos at Victarion or Dany's hands. Only then can the Wall be breached by the Others without wiping out everybody of consequence north of the Neck, IMO. I think matters elsewhere probably can't be resolved until Dany arrives at the start of ADOS, though Aegriff's role is to begin consolidating the military might of the southern houses in an alliance that Dany co-opts from him when she fulfills the mummer's dragon part of her "slayer of lies" prophecy, also finishing Varys in the process. The mess of the Iron Throne, Dorne, and Aegriff is an additional reason why I believe the North must soon unite, likely under Jon, because the North's ability to fight a delaying action against the Others buys time for the Lannisters, Tyrells, Martells, etc. to get straightened out politically, learn of the existential threat facing Westeros at long last, and rally to meet it, likely under Dany. Shoehorn the Citadel and Faceless Men subplot in however you wish!Dramatically, if the above is correct, TWOW and ADOS may feel like one endless line of decisive epic battles, villains receiving their comeuppance, and the younger generation being really awesome. I, for one, am totally cool with that.I've little to contribute now in terms of details that support the proposed conspiracies. You and tze seem to be handling things on that front well, anyways. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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