Free Northman Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 As I see it the Northmen are quite tough. Living up north during winter..only the strong survive and all that.So while they may be lower in numbers than in the south, they are worth more pr man in a fight.Robb was more or less outnumbered in all his battles and came out the victor still.Plus I think logistics play a rather big factor..If you want to have a supply line from the south, it's no good if you are terrorised by minor houses and clans along the way.Yeah well, that's why I have a problem with the way Martin has depicted the battles involving Northmen.At the Green Fork, Tyrion - a friggin dwarf with no battle experience - kills one or two Northmen without dying himself. That means two dead Northmen for zero dead Southerners.Then we hear that at the Whispering Wood Jaime Lannister cleaved through half a dozen Northmen trying to get to Robb Stark before finally being captured. That's half a dozen dead Northmen with zero dead Southerners.Then, when an overwhelming force of Northmen ambush Asha's party in the Wolfswood in Dance, Asha - a WOMAN! - manages to kill about 4 or 5 Northmen before the Middle Liddle finally manages to beat her down.And she was not alone. Apparantly she and her fellow Ironmen were keeping score as to who could kill the most Northmen before they were overwhelmed. And almost all of them were running fairly high numbers before finally being defeated.So again, more Northmen die than Ironborn.Then, in Winterfell, when the Freys try to slice lord Manderley's throat open, all hell breaks loose, but we are told that at the end there are two dead Freys and 6 dead Manderley guardsmen.So once AGAIN, about 3 dead Northmen for every dead Frey.So my point is, I HATE the way in which Martin has the Northmen consistently looking like inferior fighters whenever they encounter southern knights or Ironborn raiders.Where is this supposed Northern hardiness we hear about? And how come the North even survives today if their men always seem to die in proportionally greater numbers than their southern foes?It pisses me off greatly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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