ReddawnWolfe Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I'm toward the end of book 3 and I get the feeling that Jon may be Lyanna Stark and Rhaeger Targaryean's son. Whether he is a bastard or there was a marriage, I wonder, as he was already married. If this is true, I wonder if Dany and Jon will end up married in the end? Just a thought for us to think upon who have not gotten further in the books yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctbj Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 im a newbie also bud you need to use the seach function there is tons of topics on what you are alluding to :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crown Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 There are a lot of threads about this theory, but some may contain spoilers about the next books, so just stick to the threads about this theory in this sub-forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Malthred Storm Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 You know what? This has got to be the 1,000th thread on this :P. I am going to assume that R+L does not= J. If this many people could figure it out, I doubt Martin would be so obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kephv Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 You know what? This has got to be the 1,000th thread on this :P. I am going to assume that R+L does not= J. If this many people could figure it out, I doubt Martin would be so obvious.It's not at all obvious. Wylla would be obvious. Her or Ashara Dayne and other outright hints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colibri Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I'm not really sure about it, might be it's true or might be it's just another thing G.R.R.M. wants us to believe just to later reveal it's something completely different... but I don't think this option is so obvious, not at all, it's definitively a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowKitty Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 I hadn't thought about this, never doubted he was Ned's because it because it's mentioned so often that he's the image of a young Ned Stark, but that is indeed a possibility! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varhmiel Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Didn't it mention somewhere in the book who his mother was?...can't seem to recall atm but there was something along those lines in there somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaleesiDany Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I don't think it is obvious but I think you are right. Ned wanted to keep it a secret because otherwise Robert would try to kill Jon. I think Jon is the Prince that was promised, too, and not Stannis! But in the books, it says Wylla is Jon's mom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackTalon Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I don't think it is obvious but I think you are right. Ned wanted to keep it a secret because otherwise Robert would try to kill Jon. I think Jon is the Prince that was promised, too, andnot Stannis! But in the books, it says Wylla is Jon's mom.No, NED says that ...! A man who would never ever tell a lie because of his honor, as every man, woman and child in Westeros knows, so no one ever doubts his claims... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ygrette Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I bet that's why George R.R. Martin takes it so long to finish the series. Everyone got the big revelation figured out already, so he needs to make up another one! :DAs for Ned Stark's honour, well I could imagine that his sister's life/honour is more important to him that his own. Would also explain why he never talks about her. Wylla is being mentioned as having nursed a boy who later meets Arya (maybe Bran?), which would make him and Jon "milk brothers", because they drank milk from the same mom. But if Wylla nursed that boy, she might as well have nursed Jon without being her natural mom.So in my mind, L+R=J still works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDrawback Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I have no idea on this topic xD if you ask me it can go either way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I bet that's why George R.R. Martin takes it so long to finish the series. Everyone got the big revelation figured out already, so he needs to make up another one! :DAs for Ned Stark's honour, well I could imagine that his sister's life/honour is more important to him that his own. Would also explain why he never talks about her. Wylla is being mentioned as having nursed a boy who later meets Arya (maybe Bran?), which would make him and Jon "milk brothers", because they drank milk from the same mom. But if Wylla nursed that boy, she might as well have nursed Jon without being her natural mom.So in my mind, L+R=J still works.That boy is Edric Dayne, Beric Dondarrion's squire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter's Lady Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I bet that's why George R.R. Martin takes it so long to finish the series. Everyone got the big revelation figured out already, so he needs to make up another one! :DHeh, don't worry about that part. GRRM said that he doesn't really read online forums, and that he wouldn't change the story he has in his mind if anyone figured him out. So whether R+L=J turns out to be true or not, it was intended this way from the beginning. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatjonsrevenge Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 If this theory would be true, what is the explanation for Catelyn's hate for JS ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crown Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 If this theory would be true, what is the explanation for Catelyn's hate for JS ?Because she doesn't know about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow1979 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I have just started reading ASOS and have also contemplated the Jon Snow story. I do not believe that Jon is Ned's bastard child but probably his nephew. I also think that Jon (being a Snow) and Danearys, (being of fire) is the basis for a song of fire and ice. He and Danyearys qill probably wed to fulfil this series... just my theories at book 3... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angalin Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Discussion of the R+L=J theory belongs here. Be warned that there are spoilers in this series of threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freefolk Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 I have just started reading ASOS and have also contemplated the Jon Snow story. I do not believe that Jon is Ned's bastard child but probably his nephew. I also think that Jon (being a Snow) and Danearys, (being of fire) is the basis for a song of fire and ice. He and Danyearys qill probably wed to fulfil this series... just my theories at book 3...I think either that as Dany envisioned herself with someone with a "young face" or one of them will have to kill one another. The "scene" at the moment is a war between dark & light. As Melissaindre (spelling?) suggests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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