Drowsey Dragon Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 What do you think he will do now that he has been cast off by the Dragon Queen?If he does not take the black, where do you think he will end up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wight Walker Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I could see him doing that since his father was Lord Commander and he's basically been banished by both rulers on each side of the Sea.Unless Dany somehow takes him back or something I can't really see him joining anyone else's cause besides that of the Wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teemo Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I think he may be too proud to join the Black? I am not sure what he's going to do, but he's sneaky and sly enough that I'm sure he'll run into some more trouble somewhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fylimar Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Taking the Black would be a nice plot twist for him, but I don't think, that he would leave Dany. I could see him following her in secret and somehow helping her and get redeemedor in serious trouble or both.But maybe he'll learn somehow of his fathers fate, which could lead him to take the Black as an obligation to his father. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Wun Wun Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I hope he will take the Black, it's certainly what his father would have wanted. If he doesn't, then I'd like to see him find a woman who will actually love him back. He's never going to be happy pining after women like Lynesse and Dany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chise Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 ....why would he haul ass all the way back to Westeros to take the black? . and..um... Jorah did already turn down that option before, which is why he sailed across the seas in the first placeAnd then it'd be double awkward since Old Bear is his kin, it'll be all "oh hello lord father... I know you took the black to give me full lordship of our house, and then I completely screwed that up.. yeaaaah, so whats goin on up here?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICE CROW Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 A big problem with him taking the Black just from a story perspective, we have two POV's with Sam and Jon a third Nights Watch POV would be a little redundant. I know we have multiple Kings Landing view points and we had multiple Winterfell POV's in the earlier books, but they were all relevant to the story we were being told. Jorah taking the Black just doesn't have anything beneficial to add to the story at this point, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Wun Wun Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 ....why would he haul ass all the way back to Westeros to take the black? . and..um... Jorah did already turn down that option before, which is why he sailed across the seas in the first placeAnd then it'd be double awkward since Old Bear is his kin, it'll be all "oh hello lord father... I know you took the black to give me full lordship of our house, and then I completely screwed that up.. yeaaaah, so whats goin on up here?"I think he ran mostly because he didn't want to give up Lynesse, but she is gone now, and Dany is never going to take him for a lover no matter what he does. As far as the old bear... You do know that he is dead right? So there ain't gonna be no reunion. It was the Old Bear's dying wish that Jorah take the black though, and I'd like to think if Jorah hears that (from Sam eventually?), and gets it through his thick head that those beautiful young women like Dany will never feel the same way for him as he does for them, that he might take the path that redeems his honor.A big problem with him taking the Black just from a story perspective, we have two POV's with Sam and Jon a third Nights Watch POV would be a little redundant. I know we have multiple Kings Landing view points and we had multiple Winterfell POV's in the earlier books, but they were all relevant to the story we were being told. Jorah taking the Black just doesn't have anything beneficial to add to the story at this point, in my opinion.At this point in the story, you are right, it would have no benefit. But what about as a conclusion to his story arc? Like towards the end of ADOS or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Wun Wun Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 dp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chise Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 @Ser WunWun - yes we the reader know that spoiler, but does Jorah?Also, I'd like to believe this silly thing known as "male pride" would take over.We're talking about a man who broke laws to make money to keep his wife happy. A man who then chose to immigrate overseas instead of taking the black, again to keep his wife happyJorah isn't gonna run with tail between legs to join a frozen guard in middle of nowhere, he is gonna find a way to MAKE his Queen if not love him, then at least accept him back into her service.As last ditch effort - he'll either join sellsword company or be perpetually drunk in a corner somwhere... possibly both at same time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICE CROW Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 At this point in the story, you are right, it would have no benefit. But what about as a conclusion to his story arc? Like towards the end of ADOS or something.Yes see thats why i said right now, later on when everything is said and done if Jorah survives it would be a fitting end to his tale albeit somewhat sad one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petrichor Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Yes see thats why i said right now, later on when everything is said and done if Jorah survives it would be a fitting end to his tale albeit somewhat sad one.Agreed, I reckon it would be nice for him to follow in the steps of his father. As long as he accepts that Dany has no feelings for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fylimar Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I somehow don't see him taking the Black, I guess he will be trailing after Dany instead, trying to get in her good grace again (or maybe we are all wrong and he does something entirely different). I don't know, how he will react though, if the information of his fathers dead and the cause of it reaches him - maybe through Sam or Varys. I'm very curious about his future fate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanTasy Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I somehow don't see him taking the Black, I guess he will be trailing after Dany instead, trying to get in her good grace again (or maybe we are all wrong and he does something entirely different). I don't know, how he will react though, if the information of his fathers dead and the cause of it reaches him - maybe through Sam or Varys. I'm very curious about his future fate.Me too! Always had a hunch since Jon got Longclaw in AGOT that Jon and Jorah would meet somehow and that Longclaw will have something to do with the outcome of that meeting. And there is another character that I want to meet Jorah, because he has a message for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crown Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I hope he either ends up being in Daenerys her Queensguard, or becomes a member of the Nights' Watch. That would be a satisfying end to his story-arc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamiesRightHandMan Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Jorah has been on a quest of redemption from the start. First he was trying to redeem his standing in the Westeros to earn a pardon back to bear island.Then, he fell in love with Daenerys, and is trying to redeem his acts of betrayal towards her. I dont think this has changed in Jorah's mind, I believe he is keeping an eye on her and will make a move when the opportunity presents itself.The Black would end all chances of winning Daenerys back, whether Dany wants that or not, I dont see Jorah just giving up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterCrow Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Ser Jorah taking The Black would be an interesting twist, but I don't think it will happen. I expect he will leave and return at some point with a plan to win Dany back. I see her getting into some tough situations without Ser Jorah at her side, even if she does have the Bold one. I expect he will come to her rescue in the future, or at least attempt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Roaring Bear Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 My hope for Jorah now that he has been dismissed from Dany's company is that he runs into another female character and serves that character.Spoiler from AFFC (note my above is just a hope and I have read nothing to suggest that this will happen): Now that Arya is in Braavos, I'm hoping Jorah ends up there and becomes her sworn sword (Since ya know, shes a Stark and he is a Mormont) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drowsey Dragon Posted February 19, 2012 Author Share Posted February 19, 2012 I hope somehow news reaches him of his fathers dying wish and he returns to take the Black and fight the White Walkers in the coming showdown. Going out in full glory with Longclaw in hand is probably too much to hope for though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Lawyer Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 I have a sneaking suspicion that GRRM takes Jorah down an evil path. Jorah has a dark / weak streak in him. Given Dany's rejection and humiliation of him, I could see his love for her turning into hatred. I wouldn't be surprised to see him involved in a plot against her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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