The Imp With A Pimp Limp Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 I think the biggest thing was, Martin would only confirm that Rhaenys died. He didn't say anything one way or the other about Aegon. That doesn't mean that Young Griff is real, just that an "Aegon" was likely to pop up. I know that a lot of people were suspicious because the child's face was destroyed, and Varys talks to Ned in the black cells and mentions Rhaenys' death but not Aegon's. Combine all of that with the "mummer's dragon" and you can sort of see where people got the idea that Aegon — real or fake — might pop up after all.Alright, thank you very much. Question answered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall Tyrion Lannister! Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 what happened to Crasters daughters/wives after he was killed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lykos Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 @CHNThat´s the best answer I´ve seen so far.Last seen telling Sam and Gilly to get out of town fast because their brothers and sons were coming. I dare say they then sold tickets for what was about to go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Justin Scummy Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Small question regarding JaqenIf Jaqen is a FM then he isn't allowed anyone except his target right? Then why does he kill Pate? I doubt Pate was his targetI understand why he killed the three people at Harrenhall but thats different than PateIt doesn't make any sense to kill Pate except if the purpose was to infiltrate the Citadel, in which case I thought the FM only killed people, infiltrating and finding out secrets is more of a sellsword thing IMOImo I believe for a Fm to "take" anotherface that one must be dead....so in order to inflitrate the cidtal he had to take on Pates face and thus killing pate was part of the job...also i have been toying with the idea that maybe he is a Rouge FM...one who took the training ubt has his own personal agenda.....my theroy is based on Arya's training as she seems to still keep her list of ppl to kill and once she become a Fm she will kill them herselve... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Imp With A Pimp Limp Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Imo I believe for a Fm to "take" anotherface that one must be dead....so in order to inflitrate the cidtal he had to take on Pates face and thus killing pate was part of the job...also i have been toying with the idea that maybe he is a Rouge FM...one who took the training ubt has his own personal agenda.....my theroy is based on Arya's training as she seems to still keep her list of ppl to kill and once she become a Fm she will kill them herselve...I don't think that killing pate was part of the job though because the kindly man explicitly prohibits arya from killing the guards that protect the guy she has to kill. That made me arrive to the same conclusion as you, I think he is not part of the FM anymore and since he went rogue or works for someone else the church of the MFG needs a new FM and that's where Arya comes in. I just wasn't sure if they were allowed or not to kill more people than their target, so thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Turtle Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Why Queen of Thornes told Sansa that they want to marry her to Willas during their first meeting, why not wait with it till they were visiting Highgarden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horza Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 She wanted Sansa's help, so she needed to give her a reason to co-operate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrigan Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 When does Arya learn the meaning of the words, "valar morghulis"? Jaqen tells her the words but doesn't explain their meaning. But IIRC, later in A Storm of Swords she somehow knows that it means "all men must die". I tried ctrl + f in the eBook and couldn't find where she learns the meaning, but I may have missed it. Either that or GRRM made a small mistake. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Imp With A Pimp Limp Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 She learns it when she finds the Tyroshi ship in White Harbor and one of the crew mate's or the captain's son tells her what it means iirc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peach Fuzz Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 In a Game of Thrones when ser Vardis and bronn are about to fight Catelyn enters and mentions the lords who are in attendance she mentions the Royces and Lyn Corbray , but she mentions sigils of lesser knights one of those is a winged chalice. Is that a descendant of Ser Arlan? Is Pennytree in the vale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serie Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 In a Game of Thrones when ser Vardis and bronn are about to fight Catelyn enters and mentions the lords who are in attendance she mentions the Royces and Lyn Corbray , but she mentions sigils of lesser knights one of those is a winged chalice. Is that a descendant of Ser Arlan? Is Pennytree in the vale?nice catch but what Cat saw was the sigil of House Hersy that is indeed a winged chalice on pink background while Ser Arlan's coat of armswas the chalice on a brown-ish background.And I have no idea where Pennytree is! just like Dunk. But there was a thread once speculating where Pennytree should be according to Ser Arlan's descriptions...ETAand I just found this(look below) here originally posted by Lord Beethoven the 9th:In Dance with Dragons Pennytree is described as being in the disputed lands that the Brakens of Stone Hedge and the Blackwoods of Raventree fought over. After Jaime left Raventree he followed the Widow's Wash crossed it as spend the night in Pennytree.There is a map on HBO's Game of Thrones site that shows Raventree to be north and sligtly east of Riverrun not quite half way to Oldstones. Stone Hedge is located striaght east of Riverrun on the south of the Riverroad and just east of High Heart. So that would put Pennytree between those two points.http://viewers-guide...raventree-hall/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peach Fuzz Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 nice catch but what Cat saw was the sigil of House Hersy that is indeed a winged chalice on pink background while Ser Arlan's coat of armswas the chalice on a brown-ish background.And I have no idea where Pennytree is! just like Dunk. But there was a thread once speculating where Pennytree should be according to Ser Arlan's descriptions...ETAand I just found this(look below) here originally posted by Lord Beethoven the 9th:Thank you! And I'm a doughnut I should have remembered Jamies chapter in DwD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serie Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Thank you! And I'm a doughnut I should have remembered Jamies chapter in DwDnaaaah, don't worry :) it happens to me all the time :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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