Eddard Stark: Hypocrite

[Ramsay Gimp]

I think Stannis is the bigger traitor for thinking he has some claim to the iron throne just because his brother killed the previous guy who was sitting on it. That he killed Renly makes him a traitor to his family, too. He is also a traitor to the old Gods.

Renly would have killed Stannis too, given the chance. He was actually more of a traitor, since he had no reasonable claim to the Throne. At least Robert had Targaryen blood and overthrew a deranged King, and at least Stannis was Robert's legitimate heir under all laws of succession.

[Xtopher]

I love that its all shades of grey with this story. Everyone is both right and wrong. Just love it.

Its definitely a book worth discussing about.

[Archmaester Marwin]

The way I see it, Aerys killed his leige lord (his father), he was honour bound to pwn him.

[Robb Stark The Young Wolf]

Dany was being subjective. Aerys was a mad maniac. He killed Lord of Winterfell Rickon Stark and his heir Brandon Stark. His son Rhaegar kidnapped Lyanna Stark. Even after Aerys killed 2 Starks they didnt call the banners. Soon after Aerys demanded from Jon Arryn heads of Robert and Ned. Then war started. Even with 4 major houses agaisnt them(Starks,Baratheons,Arryns and Tullies) Targaryens could have won that war.They had massive Tyrell army on their side.But idiot Mace Tyrell spent whole war on siege of Storms End which was defended by Stannis who had a small army. If idiot Mace Tyrell marched north and came to Kings Landing there is no way they could have lost unless Lannisters joined in agaisnt them. In Battle of Trident Rhaegar had clear retreat path behind him. He let himself get outflanked or he decided with his house future on his shoulders go 1 on 1 with Roberth.