The Frosted King Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Could the Hightowers alone rebuff their advance?I mean, the Hightowers and the houses sworn to them? Think they could field enough men to do so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Sawyer Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 good question! not sure myself..im leaning towards no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howling Mad Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Samwell Tarly would kick their asses all the way back to Pike! :fencing: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Eater Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 The Hightowers have enough manpower to take on the ironmen, but Euron has always been the most cunning of the Greyjoy brothers, and he knows he wouldn't be able to take a large fleet to Oldtown without being spotted. It also has to be factored in that Redwyne's fleet is going to come into play. If Euron wants to take Oldtown, he might send a chunk of his forces onto the beach to attack by land while the rest of his fleet attacks by sea, having Oldtown surrounded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jem Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Old Lord Hightower and his daughter are locked up in their high tower doing...something...maybe something magical. Perhaps they have a plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Mac Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 The Hightowers are a very powerful house. Not to mention the Redwynes are on their way. So, unless Euron has some cunning plan, I'm pretty sure the Hightowers and the City watch of Oldtown can fend them off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevumar Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 The Hightowers have their fair share of bannermen, and a large amount of wealth and influence. Their vassals are known to include the Beesburys, the Bulwers, the Costaynes, Cuys, and Mullendores. They didn't send their own forces when the men of the Reach marched with Renly or with the Lannisters. They're probably capable of defending their lands against raiders who come ashore and stay ashore, but they don't seem to have much in the way of a fleet. In Feast, we learn that one of the Hightowers was making his way to Lys to win help from Lynesse's merchant prince patron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourne-Toujours Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I would love to read about the Greyjoys and the Ironborn having their asses handed to them after a foolish attack on Oldtown, which is precisely how I know it wont go down like that. Knowing GRRM the Ironborn will sack half the greenlands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 To be 100% honest...and this won't happen now...but by a mile the best Greyjoy play now would be to quietly patch up things with the Tyrells and attack the Westerlands, which are virtually depleted/undefended, in a much more viable resupply/logistical line for the Iron Islands, involve more immediate material gain, and unlike the Reach, cannot quickly send much held by land, and maybe not any by sea.Look at the map...think of the history. This is a, forgive me, Golden opportunity.(More accurately, this would have been better before Raventree fell...but still very viable, especially if you get in league with any of the other players.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourne-Toujours Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 To be 100% honest...and this won't happen now...but by a mile the best Greyjoy play now would be to quietly patch up things with the Tyrells and attack the Westerlands, which are virtually depleted/undefended, in a much more viable resupply/logistical line for the Iron Islands, involve more immediate material gain, and unlike the Reach, cannot quickly send much held by land, and maybe not any by sea.True, that would be the best course of action, but the Tyrell's are prideful and the Ironborn are idiots so it can never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 True, that would be the best course of action, but the Tyrell's are prideful and the Ironborn are idiots so it can never happen.I spend too much time playing Total War: Westeros, where such concerns are so much wind...but I agree that in the `real`Westeros, it ain`t gonna happen. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerBarristan Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 What is this game? Like Civ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 What is this game? Like Civ?It`s a dual level strat game...turn based relief map oriented strat that sequences into real time set piece battles when they happen. Look it up, but don`t blame me if your life suffers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerBarristan Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Yeah that sounds awesome... and dangerous. Thinking of creating a custom Diplomacy map for Westeros. Balance would be a challenge though. It seems like the initial strategy of capturing the western coastal regions of the North was smart. But I can't imagine the payoff was all that great. Deepwood Motte and Torrhen's Square don't strike me as great sources of plunder... Going for Oldtown is a stretch though. I would think they'd try and recreate Harren's kingdom.. Wasn't it primarily the River Lands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceHenryris Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 The Greyjoys aren't smart IM(n)HO opinion. The best opportunity they had was to ally with Robb and sack Casterly Rock and Lannisport while Tywin and his armies were fighting in the Riverlands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurkhal Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Could the Hightowers alone rebuff their advance?I mean, the Hightowers and the houses sworn to them? Think they could field enough men to do so?I think they could but it would be a tough match for Euron and I would think that the losses would be so severe that he wouldn't be able to do much, and since his goal is the Iron Throne I would imagine that he'll pass it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alys Karstark Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Old Lord Hightower and his daughter are locked up in their high tower doing...something...maybe something magical. Perhaps they have a plan.Euron Greyjoy better watch out for a surprise Shadow Baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Northman Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Without Dragons the Ironborn don't have much hope of defeating any major House in this idiotic war of Euron's.But with a Dragon, they could lay waste to the entire South. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Even if the hightowers have more menpower, they would come from the streets of oldtown and wouldn't be skilled warriors but the ironborn are. Like at the shieldislands the ironborn would kick their asses and then sack oldtown, but if Lord Hightower has the ability of using magic, the ironborn are probably toast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Northman Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Even if the hightowers have more menpower, they would come from the streets of oldtown and wouldn't be skilled warriors but the ironborn are. Like at the shieldislands the ironborn would kick their asses and then sack oldtown, but if Lord Hightower has the ability of using magic, the ironborn are probably toastThe Ironborn don't do sieges very well. They are unmatched as naval warriors out at sea. And they are good raiders, for short incursions inland. But they don't have siege engines, and I assume Oldtown probably has the highest and strongest city walls in Westeros, being the oldest city on the continent.So I think capturing a city guarded by 10 000 men would be a tall order for the Ironmen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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