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newcomer with a few thoughts:

-so they combined 2 parts of the Arya epic into one cohesive scene, no biggie I guess, I was just really hoping to hear Hot Pie yell out "Hot Pie!" during the fight :*(

Yoren's last stand was cool, but this left a hole in the heart.

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I think it's more like...if you don't like it or it grosses you out, whatever, you may want to keep that to yourself. Otherwise, you will come across as homophobic to many people on here. If you haven't noticed, the people on this forum are generally pretty liberal and open-minded when it comes to homosexuality.

Look, I grew up in San Francisco. Gay family friends and all that. Homosexuality is a part of the tapestry of society. I simply don't happen to be gay, and I don't understand the attraction or the fuss. To be quite frank, I still haven't come to understand why women are attracted to men. There's no judgment there, I simply don't grok it.

Nothing more, nothing less. Don't read too much into it.

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Look, I grew up in San Francisco. Gay family friends and all that. Homosexuality is a part of the tapestry of society. I simply don't happen to be gay, and I don't understand the attraction or the fuss. To be quite frank, I still haven't come to understand why women are attracted to men. There's no judgment there, I simply don't grok it.

Nothing more, nothing less. Don't read too much into it.

By this, you mean you slept through high school biology.

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I thought Brienne was awesome, man that woman was towering over the crowd. It was really noticable when she was escorting Cat back to her tent, she could have picked Cat up and tossed her like a javelin.

Surprised by all the people complaining about Asha not being beautiful, she wasn't beautiful in the book either, she just had a very fit and sexy body. Asha's "vultures beak" of a nose is mentioned several times in the book, and that is definately not something you find on the face of a beautiful woman.

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I thought Brienne was awesome, man that woman was towering over the crowd. It was really noticable when she was escorting Cat back to her tent, she could have picked Cat up and tossed her like a javelin.

Surprised by all the people complaining about Asha not being beautiful, she wasn't beautiful in the book either, she just had a very fit and sexy body. Asha's "vultures beak" of a nose is mentioned several times in the book, and that is definately not something you find on the face of a beautiful woman.

Don't remind me about what could have been...

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By this, you mean you slept through high school biology.

Ha ha. It's not that you missed the point, you clearly ducked.

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From a non-reader perspective, the Myrcella selling scene was confusing. My gf said "but wait, did he just promise her to 3 different people? Why?" So I had to explain it. I think we've lost a great deal of the reasoning behind Tyrion's actions, even if the scene was well done. Missed him ticking off his fingers, though.

My boyfriend actually got this, surprisingly. He usually barely pays attention too.

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So there's something wrong with not finding men attractive? Seriously?

I think you're a little hyper-sensitive there, friend.

Perhaps I misunderstood what you said? Let me look again:

I just can't wrap my head around why two men would be attracted to each other.
So you're not that bright. I can understand that.

Men are at best unattractive to begin with.
Ah, and men aren't your type. Now it makes more sense.

So Not Hot. So why bother?
So maybe you missed my point. I'm not complaining about all the straight/lesbian sex in the show. You obviously aren't. So why are you complaining about the hardly existent gay sex?

Maybe not homophobic, but definitely unintelligent.

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Maybe not homophobic, but definitely unintelligent.

So you were wrong, and now you're resorting to insults.

I haven't made an ad hominem attack on you.

Just show that you're a decent person and let it go.

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newcomer with a few thoughts:

-Brienne was impressive!

-I like that actress that plays Margaery Tyrell, she was great in the Tudors, I'll be curious how much more screen time she will get this season since she is very minor in the book, but come time ASOS and esp AFFC she'll be front and center

-they really are setting up Varys to look great and cunning, the show version of Littlefinger on the other hand isn't looking as impressive

-you can tell they really are trying to hash out the complexity of Theon's character and his story line with the small amount of time that they have, I really enjoyed his scenes tonight

-so they combined 2 parts of the Arya epic into one cohesive scene, no biggie I guess, I was just really hoping to hear Hot Pie yell out "Hot Pie!" during the fight :*(

Thought Margery was well done. She knows what she is, and is doing her best to cement the Tyrell position. In another post, it was mentioned something like that she was hinting Loras was Bi. I didn't get that... thought she simply was under no illusions about Renly/Loras and was trying to ease Renly's mind.

The LF/Tyrion confrontation was well done. You could see LF's interest get peaked with Harrenhal/Lord Paramount. He does bitch at Tyrion about being played in the book, and the Jamie/Sansa swap was a good way to get him down south so he can eventually broker the Purple Wedding.

Show Asha does suck though. Looks aside, she has none of the charisma of book Asha at all. Her eyes are dead. And my non-reader gf says she has poor posture.

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Use your imagination. :cool4:

You guys are a tough crowd.

And where most fans judge a new character on his/her smarts/strengths/ability to play the Game of Thrones, you see... tiddies. And whether they're big enough, or nice enough. I say again... jesus christ... :ack:

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I actually thought when Renly and Loras were together that Loras was getting him 'warmed up' for Marg, and then Marg offered the exact same thing in the next scene. I thought it was done really well, close to how I imagined in the books. I like that they are showing the Tyrells (Margery in particular) to be quite savvy at playing the game. It's going to make things very interesting next season.

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holy lord jesus, I thought Theon was going to send that beautiful letter :( then he burned it to bits! And Yoren's death was just heart wrenching :(

This particular episode made up for the last two, seriously it was an awesome episode!! yay!

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So maybe you missed my point. I'm not complaining about all the straight/lesbian sex in the show. You obviously aren't. So why are you complaining about the hardly existent gay sex?

Wow, way to manufacture a complaint out of simply stating that I'm nonplussed by it.

This is why I've asked you to calm down.

So, please calm down.

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And where most fans judge a new character on his/her smarts/strengths/ability to play the Game of Thrones, you see... tiddies. And whether they're big enough, or nice enough. I say again... jesus christ... :ack:

Absolutely. Stay tuned. Next week, I plan on analyzing all of the major characters -- their literary function, connections to various Post-Colonial and Post-Modern themes, etc. -- in context to cup size.

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No. I actually didn't like that scene as much as others. It kind of felt heavy handed...like "this is Theon's motivation for betraying Robb". Maybe I'll like it better when I watch it again.

Stuff like this, and the scene with Sansa/Shae, and with Lommy as Gendry, people who have read the book won't like them quite as much (although I did love the first two), but they are necessary, or at least important, to the viewers who haven't read the books, which i imagine is quite a few people. We have Sansa's POVs and we know she feels terrified, but the audience doesnt.

We know, especially after the fifth book, how Theon feels, but the audience doesn't. I especially liked how they made it seem like a difficult decision in the show, because in the book, it just kind of jumps without us seeing the decision-making process.

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