LuisDantas Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 the same Kevan who was cool with setting the Hound, the Brave Companions, and Ser Armory out on the peasants to rape, pillage, and burn all of their food?I can see how Kevan shouldn't have been so passive towards Tywin's excesses, but do we know that he "was cool" with that?Tyrion is pretty honorable.Look, I'm fond of Tyrion, but honorable isn't a word very well suited to him.Renly has no claim on the throne other than his number of allies.Yep.I can't take you seriously on the whole Theon and Stanins being remarkably similar.But they are; both live in that unconfortable region where they see the pomp and circunstance of highborn heirs from up close, yet keep being reminded that they are not supposed to be such heirs. And they so resent that.Stannis was lucky enough to be favored by his family to a far greater extent than Theon. Other than that, their psychological resemblance is uncanny.Because Stannis used a Shadow assassain?That was the first inequivocal sign, yes.what other King went north to protect their realm?No one yet. Not coincidentally, no other self-proclaimed King saw the North as his best best towards actually attaining a throne, either.One should consider that Stannis is being anything but altruistic in his northern campaign. If anything, he has regressed, taking the Night's Watch resources for himself and even pointing out in a letter to Jon that he will only spare the Highborn in Deepwood Motte. He is in a bid for power, not a campaign for justice. Stannis is fighting a holy war against the Other as well as claiming the throne which is his by all rights and customs.That is his propaganda, for sure. The truth is somewhat less endearing.we can tit for tat on Thoen v Stannis' honor all day and you'll lose that one.It may well be. Odds are that it will take all day, however. And then it comes to a coin toss, or rather to some very arbitrary calls.Please remember, that I said Stannis' honor is overrated, he's just more honorable that all these guys- ESPECIALLY Theon. Can you see Stannis threatening to hang Ser Rodrick's daughter?Why yes, I can. Rather easily in fact. He did slay Renly in a very treacherous way, after all. And then there is Courtney Penrose, and he almost sacrificed Edric Storm. And he did not hesitate to kill Mance Rayder either, or the smallfolk at Deepwood Motte. For that matter, he is risking his own supporters rather recklessly on his way to Winterfell.The Greyjoy's are not honorable on GP alone. What they do, taking from people weaker than them isn't honorable.Victarion is fairly honorable, as is Theon when one allows for the extreme alienation that he has been through.So explain what that has to do with making it an honorable claim? Sure it can be a claim, nothing to do with honor.Certainly nothing makes a claim more honorable than actually being wanted as a King? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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