Soiled Septa Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Cersei was given great material and rose to occasion. The final scene with her and Tommen in the Throne Room was phenomenal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Northerner Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 I don't watch award shows, but can individual episodes win anything? If so, that episode needs to win the "best fucking hour of televion in the history of ever" award. A Ghost in Winterfell, Lyana, Silmarien and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summer_stark Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 (edited) another thing i love -- that grrm gives us background on shae -- that she's lorathi and dispelling the stupid idea nonbook readers have that she is high born Edited May 28, 2012 by summer_stark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timstanton Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 @creepy crawlThat's one of the things I love about the books. Since its written in the POV format. GRRM is really good at cliffhangers and making you believe people have died etc. it's a lot more difficult to pull that kind of thing off in the show. For example, there is maybe 2-300 pages between when the fake bran and rickon are burned to when we find out they are alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 I don't remember that number from the books, where did they say it? (Not denying it, curious)It's referred to in various places, but mainly, I think, in AFFC and ADWD. Check the Wiki, it will quote the chapters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 I may have just missed it, but did Davos, and his son die?Wow, yet another first poster! Welcome to Westeros, and my God, read the books. The HBO series leaves out way, way to much, Creepy Crawl, the books are amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craven Mummer Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 There may have been that many pages in between, but when they "died" I flipped thru the chapters til I saw Bran had another chapter.î•(null) Zappotack and timstanton 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timstanton Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Anyone know if ser barriston is gonna make another appearance this season? Doesn't look like they have room. Hopefully that is where dany starts off in season 3. Crickets... Anyone? Strong belwas...and a certain eunuch with a staff? Hope he doesn't get cut. They also better include the brotherhood without banners since they have alluded to them do many times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Crawl Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Wow, yet another first poster! Welcome to Westeros, and my God, read the books. The HBO series leaves out way, way to much, Creepy Crawl, the books are amazing.Thanks a lot. I am going over seas to Germany for work next month, and I plan on buying them to take along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Snow Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 LOL imagine how the non-readers feel. Love how the ending leaves you with a WTF happened feel, whose dead, alive, captured, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Watching the second time around, of course, Tommen is there. They didn't send him to safety! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nara Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Looks like just a scar, though, no nose removed.Nice shot of the aftermath of the explosion of the wildfire, the look of horror on everyone's face, Bronn, Tyrion and Sandor, while Joffrey is grinning and the pyromancer is smug.Another strange fact change - Cersei says her mother died when she was 4? Did I misunderstand? Are they changing Tyrion's age? There should be a 9 year difference.I wasn't sure if she said "I was four" or "I was a fool", but assuming the former, I think it's because Tyrion does not look 8 year younger than Cersei and Jaime... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timstanton Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 "There may have been that many pages in between, but when they "died" I flipped thru the chapters til I saw Bran had another chapter.î•(null) "Didn't want to admit it but I did the exact same thing, was happy that SoS was just numbered chapters because I have no self control NymeriaLives 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter209 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 When the Hound came back from the battle, all I wanted was a "F*ck the King" line, but damn he did better than I expected. The Hound may yet be seen properly in the show.For book readers: Anyone else think Martin's dropping hints for future books? I thought the Cersei-Sansa exchange where Cersei was talking about Sansa being a "younger, beautiful" queen(that's what I took it as anyway), seemed like a hint on that prophecys front? Not to mention the fact that SanSan was pretty well shot down here, at least in a romantic way.Other than that, 12/10. The wildfyre alone got a 10/10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rockroi Posted May 28, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2012 (edited) Let’s just shoot the arrow, light the fleet on fire, storm the castle and just get right to it. This was the most intense episode of the series and … and we all knew how it was going to end… BEAT THAT!What I liked:Watching some good friends …. Screaming 'Let me out': The building, growing sense of doom; the painful way the men in Stannis’ ships were terrorized; the way Tyrion worried endlessly; the way the women stayed in that room; the way the bells tolled and the drums… the drums… the drums.. The pressure and anticipation of this monumental battle as it crushed down on all these people was immeasurable. The show captured- maybe for the first time –the horrible inflexibility of being trapped. Trapped on those ships, trapped on those walls, trapped in that armor, in that room, on that Throne. I thought Martin did as good of a job as ever in bringing the pressure of the battle up to everyone. It was horrible, complete, total. Unbearable.The Reins of Castermere: I just thought it was the perfect touch. From start to finish.The Fall of the King: We don’t say it enough on these boards but Joff was great this episode. Stammering, scared, overwhelmed and a little bitch the whole time. Give that actor a fucking award. I have never believed a King more capable of pissing his pants at the same time he shat himself than that scene. The Regent and the Dove: In the books, I thought that the Cersei-Sansa scenes during Blackwater were as good as anything in that book (my favorite, I may add). And the show did not disappoint. Cersei determined to spread her anguish and toxicity to Sansa; Sansa playing her part to the letter. I felt that helplessness and the desire to kill and hurt the things closest to you EVEN WHEN you are dying yourself. Cersei is that bitterness that we all know but rarely admit - that when we are in trouble, we are capable of scalding those closest to us. Cersei is the person that chops off her nose to spite her face.And then with Tommen. And I knew she wouldn’t do it, but I still thought there was a chance that … that she would end up the way Aerys did … .Sansa, meanwhile was as incredible as always. Sansa knows what is expected of her; she does what will keep her alive and makes sure she plays the part, hits the notes, makes her marks and survives.The Hound: I thought they captured the Hound’s rise and fall as well as anything. His brutality, his killer instinct and then his collapse. The fear, the fire, the anguish. And the knowledge that once down you cannot just get back up again.The Quarterman: Another episode; another masterpiece by Dinklidge. This time it was capturing both fear and desperation. The whole time we knew Tyrion gets to live, but it was how he carried himself here that we knew would be the centerpiece of this story. No more stupid slap-stick with him missing the battle; no cut aways. No. Tyrion had to be knee-deep in this shit hole. And we got that in spades. Glad Pod was there again, though.WHY SO SERIOUS????!!!! I’ll end this where I always knew I would- by talking about the serious man.Look, when I saw Stannis watch his fleet burning his reaction was ... Stannis. Fleet on fire? Then I’ll lead the boats myself.Wildfire? The Imp played his best card too soon.Hundreds dead? No, thousands.Get to the beach? Fuck off- I’M GETTING INTO MY THRONE ROOM!!!The sword, the face, the eyes, the voice, the fury, the fury, THE FURY!!! Stannis owned. Absolutely from start to “Voltron-combination-to-defeat-him” ending, Stannis was what made this work. Those people inside that city have to be afraid... but of what? Something? No... someone... If Stannis was a tool of Mal; if Stannis was weak, or unsure, or vacillating, or a delegator or if he were anything but that fucking rage-machine that climbed… the ladder … first … that whole scene is just a bunch of idiots trying to look like their fighting on a beach at night. In order for us to feel that the city was REALLY in danger… the Danger has to land on the beach….… the Danger has to scream for his ladders….... the Danger has to climb that wal...… the Danger has to kill Lannisters….….the Danger has to command his forces while screaming to take his city back…And he worked. We bought it the whole way. Stannis was what we thought he was: the fury; the enemy; the fear; the danger. The Other.And he lost. He lost in the only way he could have lost- Tyrion+Tywin+Highgarden+King’s Landing+Aerys Targaryen’s fucking wildfire. Seriously- Sun Tzu probably has a chapter for Stannis entitled, “And sometimes everyone in the world really is out to get you.”But… but this one last parting message… That was Book 2. In Book 5 (and the sample chapter we have out there in the future) Tywin- dead; Tyrion- dispossessed; Robb- dead; Balon-dead; Renly- still dead; Joff- dead; Cersei- meaningless; Hound- out of commission.But out there in the snow, with his flock of captured Karstarks, and his army of half-crazed Northerrers and Southerners ...just like on the water before……the Danger … is still coming….What I did not Like:Nothing . Okay, I wretched when Shae was on the screen. But really, this was what the Balckwater needed to be: 55 minutes of tension, build-up, climax. The Blackwater worked in the show for the exact same reasons the Blackwater worked in the books: because everything that happened we believed.Maybe not the best episode; maybe not the tightest episode. But definitely the most gripping episode. 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UnknownSoldier Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Was a great episode. Like I said in the nitpicking thread, the only thing I can nitpick about the episode is the way they did the scene on the Blackwater. The way it played out with the literal creeping doom as the wildfyre spread to the ships and then as everything got crushed up against the chain was one of my favorite scenes in the series. While the explosion was cool, it just didn't do the scene justice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redditdedditrevolver Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 I just love that everyone got some in this episode - Tyrion, Pod,Bronn Stannis...Even Lancel, who's been emasculated all through this season, came off more badass then expected, taking an arrow and wanting to get back in...and the rains of castemere at the end..I usually skip over the songs in the books because i can't make up the tunes in my head.. just brought it hauntingly to life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyGiantofLannister Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Holy monkeygates, what an amazing episode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Crawl Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 You may or may not be aware, but in this very forum there's another thread for those that have not read the books. Noting wrong with being in this thread if you don't mind the spoilers, but you might prefer the "no spoilers" thread to this one.Yeah, I know. It's really no big deal. I like to hear what you guys have to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrad Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Maybe not the best episode; maybe not the tightest episode. But definitely the most gripping episode.Maybe the fact that the episode stayed exclusively at KL has something to do with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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