kissdbyfire Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Hmm then, which are still veiwing themselves as first men and have truth to back it up?I believe all the Northmen but the Manderlys, and the Blackwoods. There may be more I'm forgetting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narf Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Yes it is families like that I'd like names on. Like the Darklyns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolene Brown Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I have this vague memory of Jaime reminiscing at some point of how when he was admitted to the Kingsguard at the Harrenhall tourney he was known as the "Young Lion." I thought it was poignant, given how he is known now, and I have been trying to find it again, but it was such a fleeting moment (just a sentence) that I can't. Does anyone know where that is? I have the books on paper, not on kindle, so I can't search for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodymime Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I have this vague memory of Jaime reminiscing at some point of how when he was admitted to the Kingsguard at the Harrenhall tourney he was known as the "Young Lion." I thought it was poignant, given how he is known now, and I have been trying to find it again, but it was such a fleeting moment (just a sentence) that I can't. Does anyone know where that is? I have the books on paper, not on kindle, so I can't search for it.Maybe you're thinking of when he was knighted?A boy knelt; a knight rose. The Young Lion, not the Kingslayer. But that was long ago, and the boy was dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolene Brown Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Yes, that! Where is it? I couldn't find it anywhere - AFFC, I assume, but which chapter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blisscraft Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 It's in ASOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodymime Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 No it's Feast. Jaime's first chapter when he's standing vigil for his father and remembering his first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lykos Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 @Jolene Brown: Yes it´s in Feast, one of the first if not first Jaime chapters (page 124 in a 750 page version) following a Cersei chapter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolene Brown Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Thanks guys! I love the ongoing theme of identity and how we are known by other people vs. how we see ourselves in these books. It comes up again and again, with Jaime, Arya, Sansa, Theon particularly and most literally in terms of their names/nicknames, but also with Jon's issues with being a bastard and Tyrion's issues with being a dwarf. Jaime's lines here and Arya's line about how "She'd had so many names. Had she only dreamed Arya Stark," are so moving to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyDeLeon Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 "Her lips twisted. It was an ugly smile, a smile that reminded him of Ramsay’s. “Catelyn Tully dispatched Lord Eddard’s bones north before the Red Wedding, but your iron uncle seized Moat Cailin and closed the way. I have been watching ever since. Should those bones ever emerge from the swamps, they will get no farther than Barrowton.” She threw one last lingering look at the likeness of Eddard Stark. “We are done here.” aDwD pg.473 I have a feeling the House Reed as Neds Bones, or maybe Cat sent word word to him about it. Could this be a clue/foreshadowing of him going to the Crypts of Winterfell? Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Anyone? We don't know where Ned's bones are or who has them, exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyDeLeon Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 There are a lot of arrows pointing to the swamp now though, Brienne and Jamie, now the bones are in the same area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlaw's Book Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Mel's comments in ADWD dragons imply she has only made shadow babies with Stannis. We know she wants to make more because she propositions Davos and Jon Snow. While they turn her down, I'm sure quite a few of her followers that are very close by would say yes. So my question is, why does Mel seem to want specific men to father her children? Is there some logistical reason, or is it personal preference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuisDantas Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I don't know. My best guess is that she wants people who are unlikely to turn against her when they realize the toll to their bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyDeLeon Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 "Visions danced before her, gold and scarlet, flickering, forming and melting and dissolving into one another, shapes strange and terrifying and seductive. She saw the eyeless faces again, staring out at her from sockets weeping blood. Then the towers by the sea, crumbling as the dark tide came sweeping over them, rising from the depths. Shadows in the shape of skulls, skulls that turned to mist, bodies locked together in lust, writhing and rolling and clawing. Through curtains of fire great winged shadows wheeled against a hard blue sky. " aDwD pg.356Is this referring to Drogon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 "Visions danced before her, gold and scarlet, flickering, forming and melting and dissolving into one another, shapes strange and terrifying and seductive. She saw the eyeless faces again, staring out at her from sockets weeping blood. Then the towers by the sea, crumbling as the dark tide came sweeping over them, rising from the depths. Shadows in the shape of skulls, skulls that turned to mist, bodies locked together in lust, writhing and rolling and clawing. Through curtains of fire great winged shadows wheeled against a hard blue sky. " aDwD pg.356 Is this referring to Drogon? We don't know. You're asking about things that are either unconfirmed or still open to interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyDeLeon Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Was curious to see how many people thought the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardstone Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 We don't know where Ned's bones are or who has them, exactly. Hallis Mollen has them with his detachment Shadd, Jacks and Quent, as stated in the ASOS appendix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal'c Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 "Visions danced before her, gold and scarlet, flickering, forming and melting and dissolving intoone another, shapes strange and terrifying and seductive. She saw the eyeless faces again, staring out ather from sockets weeping blood. Then the towers by the sea, crumbling as the dark tide came sweepingover them, rising from the depths. Shadows in the shape of skulls, skulls that turned to mist, bodieslocked together in lust, writhing and rolling and clawing. Through curtains of fire great winged shadows wheeled against a hard blue sky. " aDwD pg.356Is this referring to Drogon?It seems like dragons to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Notch Balanter Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I am currently reareading ASOS and i just finished the Bran chapter where Meera is talking about the Harrenhall tourney and there are few things i need cleared up.Meera describes a white knight dancing with a maid with laughing purple eyes that is barristan and Ashara Dayne yes?she also mentions the knight of skulls and kisses who is this?and lastly the 3 squires who attacked Howland were a frey and then a pitchfork knight-House Haigh and another squire who had a porcupine sigil what house is this ? is it another frey bannerman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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