For_The_Good_Of_The_Realm Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 The Princess and the Queen consists of merely 30000 words, according to GRRM. It isn't quite enough to keep us busy for the whole year. I do hope TWoIaF comes out in March/April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rahgh Neqaj Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 amazon.co.uk changed the publication date for TWOIAF to 28th of October 2014(http://www.amazon.co.uk/World-Ice-Fire-Official-Westeros/dp/0553805444/) and changed the delivery date of my pre-order to: Delivery estimate Friday 21 Nov 2014 - Monday 24 Nov 2014Not sure why they're having a 1 month delay between publication and delivery date but I wasn't exactly happy to see the date being changed to next year pre-holiday. :-( Hope there's going to be loads of additional material to make the wait worthwile. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Amazon might be pulling dates out of thin air again, or they might be signalling that the publication date is definitely now October/November 2014 and the spring option is out. Hopefully Ran or GRRM can confirm in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitering Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 At least in Canada, despite always picking the free shipping option, Amazon.ca couriers everything I pre-order at no cost to me. That's really strange, but thanks heh I hope this comes out in the Spring but obviously Amazon is just estimating numbers based on the current time frame. I am not sure how long it takes to get a book to shelves once Ran and GRRM are finished with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurkhal Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 The Princess and the Queen consists of merely 30000 words, according to GRRM. It isn't quite enough to keep us busy for the whole year. I do hope TWoIaF comes out in March/April. Don't say that. We can easily talk about it from here to there and back again for at least a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitering Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Don't say that. We can easily talk about it from here to there and back again for at least a year. Well, it doesn't stand alone right? It just gets added to the sunday we keep regurgitating all the time. I hope you aren't allergic to nuts, we have so many on this board lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Don't say that. We can easily talk about it from here to there and back again for at least a year. I can almost guaranty you, that the book most fans are looking forward to, doesn't involve the origins of the Dance with Dragons, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurkhal Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Well, it doesn't stand alone right? It just gets added to the sunday we keep regurgitating all the time. I hope you aren't allergic to nuts, we have so many on this board lol Don't worry, I've developed resistance through exposure. I can almost guaranty you, that the book most fans are looking forward to, doesn't involve the origins of the Dance with Dragons, lol I agree with you, but this little part about the DotD will be fuel to feed the fire for some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alhazred Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Amazon might be pulling dates out of thin air again, or they might be signalling that the publication date is definitely now October/November 2014 and the spring option is out. Hopefully Ran or GRRM can confirm in the near future. I'm betting on December 4, 2014; exactly one year after the release of DANGEROUS WOMEN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireBronn Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Very much looking forward to this. I found it very difficult to keep ontop of all the characters on my first read through so I used the GoT Companion app to remind myself of a lot of the characters (has a great spoiler system). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikef Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 amazon.co.uk changed the publication date for TWOIAF to 28th of October 2014 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/World-Ice-Fire-Official-Westeros/dp/0553805444/) and changed the delivery date of my pre-order to: Not sure why they're having a 1 month delay between publication and delivery date but I wasn't exactly happy to see the date being changed to next year pre-holiday. :-( Hope there's going to be loads of additional material to make the wait worthwile. ;-) ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 amazon.co.uk changed the publication date for TWOIAF to 28th of October 2014 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/World-Ice-Fire-Official-Westeros/dp/0553805444/) and changed the delivery date of my pre-order to: Not sure why they're having a 1 month delay between publication and delivery date but I wasn't exactly happy to see the date being changed to next year pre-holiday. :-( Hope there's going to be loads of additional material to make the wait worthwile. ;-) The last Original date before this one was 10/29/13 right? Perhaps Amazon didn't know the real date either, but since they had already published a date on their site, they just changed the year? Both days are the last Tuesday in October, seems a bit coincidental :p tPatQ is also becomming available on a Tuesday. I'm not sure if this is always done, since I've never taken that much interest in the publication dates of books before discovering this series, but it's possible that Amazon doesn't really have a date either, and just changed the date on their site to the last Tuesday in october, since they knew this year wasn't going to happen. Also, why would Amazon have a publication date, and GRRM's site and all the other sources not? So there's still a chance the world-book will be published in the first half of 2014, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alhazred Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 The last Original date before this one was 10/29/13 right? Perhaps Amazon didn't know the real date either, but since they had already published a date on their site, they just changed the year? Both days are the last Tuesday in October, seems a bit coincidental :P I believe the date came from the publisher, not Amazon, but it is/was still a tentative date. It can still be moved back, or (in theory) even moved forward. Note that we were told (IIRC by GRRM) that Dangerous Women had a 1-year exclusivity deal on the Dunk & Egg novella. Presumably this is no different now that they are getting "The Princess & the Queen" instead. It seems, from one of Ran's comments, as though the WORLD book may also contain a version of "The Princess & the Queen". If so, there may be a contractual obligation to delay publication for a year past December 3, 2013; and at any rate a financial motive for doing so. So there's still a chance the world-book will be published in the first half of 2014, I think. If you bet against it, you cannot be disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Note that we were told (IIRC by GRRM) that Dangerous Women had a 1-year exclusivity deal on the Dunk & Egg novella. Presumably this is no different now that they are getting "The Princess & the Queen" instead. It seems, from one of Ran's comments, as though the WORLD book may also contain a version of "The Princess & the Queen". If so, there may be a contractual obligation to delay publication for a year past December 3, 2013; and at any rate a financial motive for doing so. Completely forgotten that for a moment. Damn.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rahgh Neqaj Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 [...] Note that we were told (IIRC by GRRM) that Dangerous Women had a 1-year exclusivity deal on the Dunk & Egg novella. Presumably this is no different now that they are getting "The Princess & the Queen" instead. It seems, from one of Ran's comments, as though the WORLD book may also contain a version of "The Princess & the Queen". If so, there may be a contractual obligation to delay publication for a year past December 3, 2013; and at any rate a financial motive for doing so. [...] That doesn't sound particularly promising . :-( Reasonable but not promising. One book before Christmas '13, one just before Christmas '14 and TWoW rumored for '15. (Not counting "the wit of tyrion lannister" and other small projects that do not contribute new story/nsight.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 a 1-year exclusivity deal on the Dunk & Egg novella This doesn't apply. The exclusivity thing is solely for the story as it appears in Dangerous Women. A shortened, summary version of the same story can be published elsewhere without a problem. Spring 2014 seems to be disappearing as a possibility. If it was going to be then, they'd probably have announced it now, so I'd certainly be banking on next October/November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 This doesn't apply. The exclusivity thing is solely for the story as it appears in Dangerous Women. A shortened, summary version of the same story can be published elsewhere without a problem. Spring 2014 seems to be disappearing as a possibility. If it was going to be then, they'd probably have announced it now, so I'd certainly be banking on next October/November. But the version of the Princess and the Queen which would appear in the World of Ice and Fire would be 80.000 words, instead of the 30.000 words which will come out in december. So actually, the story in the World of Ice and Fire, would be a more detailed one. Would it still not apply then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 But the version of the Princess and the Queen which would appear in the World of Ice and Fire would be 80.000 words, instead of the 30.000 words which will come out in december. So actually, the story in the World of Ice and Fire, would be a more detailed one. Would it still not apply then? My understanding is that we're not getting the 80,000 word version in The World of Ice and Fire, that will have to wait for the GRRMarrillion. The World of Ice and Fire will almost certainly have less than 30,000 words on The Dance. But lots of pretty pictures! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibandar Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 My understanding is that we're not getting the 80,000 word version in The World of Ice and Fire, that will have to wait for the GRRMarrillion. The World of Ice and Fire will almost certainly have less than 30,000 words on The Dance. But lots of pretty pictures!That's what I recall as well.As for the release date, maybe Spring 2014 was never on the cards, more of a sweetener to the vastly disappointed fans who were told that the book would be delayed yet again, for a full year. If you promise them "it might be Spring 2014" they might not find it as bad as November 2014. But there have never been any listings on Amazon or B&N or elsewhere showing the date as other than November 2014. And the date may be November 2014 now, but let's not forget that that remains unconfirmed. This could well slip into 2015 who knows. Edit; By unconfirmed I mean that no one who has knowledge of it has recently confirmed this date, or that the book is finished, or even nearly finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 My understanding is that we're not getting the 80,000 word version in The World of Ice and Fire, that will have to wait for the GRRMarrillion. The World of Ice and Fire will almost certainly have less than 30,000 words on The Dance. But lots of pretty pictures! Ah, too bad. Well, at least we'll have the pictures. The GRRMarrillion won't be comming for many, many years, right? I thought that the 80.000 word version had already been written. I wonder why he would wait to publish it, if it really won't be in the World book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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