Free Northman Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Oh yes. There'll be a family tree or six. Not sure the total number as of yet.More or less how far back would an unbroken Stark "family tree" be provided for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Not further back than Torrhen Stark I think... and my recollection of what I saw was that it was actually about a hundred years after that where it started. But it was a draft and not complete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Northman Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Not further back than Torrhen Stark I think... and my recollection of what I saw was that it was actually about a hundred years after that where it started. But it was a draft and not complete :bang: I am thwarted again! But I will find a way...So nothing on when exactly Jon Stark lived - the King who established the Wolf's Den at White Harbor - for example. That's about 4,000 years ago, by my best estimates, given the information in Dance. But it would have been great to see some type of chronological family tree, even if it has gaps, with rough date markers next to each King.Kind of like the ancient Egyptian Dynastic line, putting Ramses II at say 2000 BC, Akhenathon at say 1200 BC, or whatever. Looks like I"m out of luck in this case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushido Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Ok,Ran,now - give us the date :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrik of Dorne Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Late 2013. It is known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordBloodraven Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Late 2013. It is known.Late 2013? Fuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurkhal Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 That's a long wait but hopefully we'll survive it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eärendil Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Wow, late 2013? Ugh! That's a long wait; however, we'll probably see The World of Ice and Fire before we'll see The Winds of Winter though.I still hope there will be plans for a deluxe edition from Subterranean Press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Ran: will we learn the name of Argilac the Arrogant's house? That's another longstanding mystery which I think could be solved by the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Lepus Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 A question for Ran: Will be learn more about the Temple of the Graces? We don't know how they are recruited, if all of them are highborn, or even which gods they worship.I would also like to know more about the moonsingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory Lee Hill Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 A thousand year War between the North and the Vale? Sends shivers down my spine. Brandon Ice Eyes, King Jon Stark etc.Huh, doesn't it just say something like they warred over the sister's for a thousand years. Like how the Reach, Stormlands and Dorne warred for a thousand years as in not a constant thousand year war but just long standing bad blood that erupted into warfare. It certainly doesn't not seemed to be implyed by the dialogue that there was a war that lasted a thousand years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Don't know that we'll get anything about the Temple of Graces as of yet. Depends on what info GRRM gifts us in that regard, but mostly we've been focused on Westeros so far, as that's the area there's the most information on. The section on the east isn't quite done, but it's going to be smaller than the section on Westeros, I can tell you that much.And I agree with Cory: there was not a thousand year war anywhere, between anybody. There was semi-regular warfare that would repeat itself over generations, but not a constant state of warfare. It'd be like claiming there had been a millenia long war between, I don't know, Scotland and England. There wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baelor Blackfyre Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Question for Ran:So there is going to be a Stark family tree? Will this family tree detail who the mysterious Lady Stark is (as in Ned's mother and Rickard's wife)?I swore I read somewhere on the forums that this info could possibly pop up in The World of Ice and Fire.Will we learn anymore about past Lord Commanders of the NW? Particularly about Bloodraven's time as LC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 My understanding is there'll be a Stark family tree. At least, seen a draft of it. :) And yes, it answers who Ned Stark's mother was.Night's Watch LC... hrm. I don't think we've gone too much into that, but there's room for GRRM to throw out some more details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordBloodraven Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 My understanding is there'll be a Stark family tree. At least, seen a draft of it. :) And yes, it answers who Ned Stark's mother was.Night's Watch LC... hrm. I don't think we've gone too much into that, but there's room for GRRM to throw out some more details.Is Ned's mom from some House that was mentioned in the novels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkash Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Wow ! That's some teaser ! =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordBloodraven Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Yes.I mean, not like House Stane of Skagos just mentioned in the appendices but like House Dustin, of which we know some members Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ost Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Ran thanks for answering all these questions, do you know if we will find out how Lann the Clever tricked the Casterlys out of Casterly Rock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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