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Sansa has finally left the Eyrie where there was no weirwood. If she finds one to pray to, could Bran talk to (and not just see and hear) her?

How much do posters think Bran knows about what is happening elsewhere?

Where are the remaining weirwoods located and does anyone see a role for using the weirwoods to communicate throughout Westeros?

Why can't the others use the weirwoods (or can they)?

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Yeah, it'd be nice if Bran and Sansa could talk this way, it'd be such an emotional scene... and Sansa is the only one actually who could get to a weirwood of Bran's family... or maybe Rickon too.

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I don't know if there is a Godswood at the Gates of the Moon, but as the Royces are an old family and Starks have been known to marry into the Royce family before, it seems like there may possibly be one, which means Bran would at least know Sansa is alive and can probably figure out where she is. I'd love for Bran to be able to nudge his family in the "right" direction. If he can run a Weirwood communications network, he should be able to at least know some of Jon, UnCat, Rickon (Weirwoods in Skagos of course!) and now Sansa as well. Only Arya remains outside of the sphere of influence, then Bran can start his Grand Unified Plan to get the Starks back in business!

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I don't know if there is a Godswood at the Gates of the Moon, but as the Royces are an old family and Starks have been known to marry into the Royce family before, it seems like there may possibly be one, which means Bran would at least know Sansa is alive and can probably figure out where she is. I'd love for Bran to be able to nudge his family in the "right" direction. If he can run a Weirwood communications network, he should be able to at least know some of Jon, UnCat, Rickon (Weirwoods in Skagos of course!) and now Sansa as well. Only Arya remains outside of the sphere of influence, then Bran can start his Grand Unified Plan to get the Starks back in business!

Does it need to be a weirwood? or just any tree? or does it need to be an awakened tree?

Also, I don't know that area is out of his reach. I wonder if the doors of black and white (being weirwood) have some power? There's also the fact he can warg into any animal to influence his family.

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I wonder if the doors of black and white (being weirwood) have some power? There's also the fact he can warg into any animal to influence his family.

I wonder that as well, especially since we've already seen something similar (when people passed through the "mouth" of the secret weirwood gate beneath the Wall and it "cried" a warm, salty tear).

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Bran reached out to Jon (ACOK) in a dream. He might try and do the same with Sansa and Arya. Alternatively he could try and talk to them via a raven or even rustle some branches at Sansa in a meaningful way. So many options!

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My prediction: she'll receive communications from the weirwoods. Unfortunately, they're mostly for discount Viagra and Ugg boots.

:lol:

Sansa could probably use some Ugg boots actually. Let's just pray Littlefinger isn't around when she gets the Viagra message.

Bran reached out to Jon (ACOK) in a dream. He might try and do the same with Sansa and Arya. Alternatively he could try and talk to them via a raven or even rustle some branches at Sansa in a meaningful way. So many options!

It would be nice if something a little bit "magical" happened to Sansa, since the magic she has had in her life so far has really been Cersei's "9 parts mess to 1 part magic" where the one hasn't even made an appearance yet*** I just wonder if Sansa would be open to suggestion if Bran does manage to communicate with her? Everyone assumes Sansa is pretty religious, but I took her piety to be more about keeping a sense of hope and to go somewhere quiet to be away from all the calamity. She seems to find the lack of a Sept with no Septon and especially the lack of a Godswood as a spiritual emptiness, of sorts. Interestingly, she seems far more upset about the lack of Godswood, showing all and sundry that she's definitely affirming her identity as the Red Wolf after all.

But would she listen if the trees started talking to her? Would she even entertain the idea that Bran is alive? Jon seems to be fairly sceptical of his own abilities, despite being in a far more accepting and helpful environment when it comes to warging and old gods mysteries. Maybe Bran can helpfully explain how to warg some birds?

I have no idea where Arya will end up when she comes back to Westeros and how long that will take, and whether or not there will be any weirwoods where she ends up.

*** with allowance for a possible Deanna Troi moment with Sandor at the Battle of the Blackwater.

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Arya, Sansa and Jon (and probably Rickon) have all encountered and stood before Weirwoods at various points in their stories. Arya at Harrenhall, Sansa at KL and Jon north of the Wall. So I think Bran has access to a trove of 'memories' that can keep him generally well informed as to his siblings have been up to.

But a more important means of gathering information than the trees are the ravens (and maybe crows) that Bran can warg. I think Bloodraven has thousands of them scattered all throughout Westeros (maybe the world) keeping him informed of what is going on, and I think he will pass these on to Bran before he dies. So Varys can keep his "little birds", Bran has the real deal ;)

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Bran reached out to Jon (ACOK) in a dream. He might try and do the same with Sansa and Arya. Alternatively he could try and talk to them via a raven or even rustle some branches at Sansa in a meaningful way. So many options!

Jon and Arya have both experienced wolf dreams, and I imagine Rickon's time with Osha has left him very closely bonded with Shaggydog. For some reason this makes me think Bran could contact, or at least observe them easily. I wonder if Sansa is still as connected to the old gods since Lady was killed? In general, I wonder if there will be large impacts to the fact that Lady was killed.

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Jon and Arya have both experienced wolf dreams, and I imagine Rickon's time with Osha has left him very closely bonded with Shaggydog. For some reason this makes me think Bran could contact, or at least observe them easily. I wonder if Sansa is still as connected to the old gods since Lady was killed? In general, I wonder if there will be large impacts to the fact that Lady was killed.

She seemed to connect with an old dog ASOS. Maybe she still has her warging ability and something could trigger it. If Nymeria had a pup for example, she could have another wolf. A half direwolf because her southern heritage is stronger than that of her siblings?
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Jon and Arya have both experienced wolf dreams, and I imagine Rickon's time with Osha has left him very closely bonded with Shaggydog. For some reason this makes me think Bran could contact, or at least observe them easily. I wonder if Sansa is still as connected to the old gods since Lady was killed? In general, I wonder if there will be large impacts to the fact that Lady was killed.

Throughout ACOK and ASOS, we see her feeling far more attached to the Godswood than she does the Sept (although I believe she prays in both) and the servant Brienne interviews in AFFC (Brella?) says that all Sansa did was pray and that she's gone north, to where her father's Gods are, implying that she mostly prayed to the Old Gods. There also is a Sept at the Eyrie, but no Godswood and Sansa doesn't seem to keen to go to the empty Sept to pray, so it seems she's more and more reconnecting with the Stark side and the Old God side of herself.

It will be interesting to see if there is a Godswood at the Gates of the Moon and if she'll slip out and go there.

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...But would she listen if the trees started talking to her? Would she even entertain the idea that Bran is alive? Jon seems to be fairly sceptical of his own abilities, despite being in a far more accepting and helpful environment when it comes to warging and old gods mysteries. Maybe Bran can helpfully explain how to warg some birds?...

It's a good point, after all Jon has had a dream from Bran but doesn't understand that it was a weirmail instead he writes it off as a dream. It is his companions who accept that the vision of Mance's army is true even though they don't (or maybe can't) tell Jon that this means that Bran lives, I suppose for them it is just the power of the old gods.

Effective communication might therefore not be direct - if the children dream that Bran is a talking tree they are more likely to thing 'stupid dream...poor Bran' that if Bran, I don't know, gives them a dream about what they should do or where they should go or who they should trust. Problem is that cunning communication relies on Bran who is a boy of tender years. What Bran may need is a communication strategy with multiple approaches - the odd weirwood dream, significant tree rustling and Crows squarking to get his message across.

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If people have sex in front of a weirwood, does that count as weirwood porn? Hopefully Bran doesn't accidentally press send to Sansa, and then say he accidentally sent her some "nature clips."

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If people have sex in front of a weirwood, does that count as weirwood porn? Hopefully Bran doesn't accidentally press send to Sansa, and then say he accidentally sent her some "nature clips."

:lol:

Imagine the backtracking!

Sansa: "???!!! Why are people doing *that* in the Goodswood!"

Bran: "Sorry meant to send you some profound prophecy stuff, nevermind the "nature clips", must have come from Bloodraven's stash"

Sansa: "Hmm, I wonder if Myranda might like this".

It's a good point, after all Jon has had a dream from Bran but doesn't understand that it was a weirmail instead he writes it off as a dream. It is his companions who accept that the vision of Mance's army is true even though they don't (or maybe can't) tell Jon that this means that Bran lives, I suppose for them it is just the power of the old gods.

Effective communication might therefore not be direct - if the children dream that Bran is a talking tree they are more likely to thing 'stupid dream...poor Bran' that if Bran, I don't know, gives them a dream about what they should do or where they should go or who they should trust. Problem is that cunning communication relies on Bran who is a boy of tender years. What Bran may need is a communication strategy with multiple approaches - the odd weirwood dream, significant tree rustling and Crows squarking to get his message across.

Yes, you have to wonder how efficient the Weirwood Web really can be, since Bran seems to be quite a n00b at operating it. I suppose Bloodraven could always come up with good suggestive imagery and tree rustling patterns and what have you, but it still seems doubtful it would work really well. Arya and Sansa have also learnt the hard way to be very, very suspicious of everyone and everything, which could make it harder for BloodBranRaven to contact them and make them believe in the message, even with quorking ravens attached.

Perhaps a newly Rhollored UnJon Snow will be more susceptible though since coming back from the dead should put any suspicions you had about supernatural events being real to rest, so to speak..

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If people have sex in front of a weirwood, does that count as weirwood porn? Hopefully Bran doesn't accidentally press send to Sansa, and then say he accidentally sent her some "nature clips."

Hmm **Sansa spends TWOW living in Littlefinger's basement, eating snack food and living only for dreams of "nature clips"**

...Arya and Sansa have also learnt the hard way to be very, very suspicious of everyone and everything, which could make it harder for BloodBranRaven to contact them and make them believe in the message, even with quorking ravens attached.

Perhaps a newly Rhollored UnJon Snow will be more susceptible though since coming back from the dead should put any suspicions you had about supernatural events being real to rest, so to speak..

Dunno. Arya was quite open to dreams. She accepted that Catelyn had died from a dream, she has her wolf dreams. The problem is what is she going to think if she gets a dream of Bran saying 'hi, I'm your long lost brother who is living with a tree' ? So I can imagine that he would have to take a more subtle approach - not the easiest thing in the world for a young lad (or lass for that matter) to do, his dream to Jon comes across as very much as over enthuastic burbling. Maybe he will need to send a course of dreams that build up to a reveal?

Do the dead dream? Will Jon be capable of dreaming? Will he be hardwired in to the weirnet if he moves from being living to something other than conventionally alive?

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Throughout ACOK and ASOS, we see her feeling far more attached to the Godswood than she does the Sept (although I believe she prays in both) and the servant Brienne interviews in AFFC (Brella?) says that all Sansa did was pray

She went to the godswood to meet with Dontos.

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