First off , I'm sure the things I want to discuss must have been discussed before, but I didn't start frequenting these boards a few months after the release of ADwD...some aspects of the topics are even being discussed right now on other threads , but in a different context. I'd like to consider them apart from those threads , just to keep it simple. It strikes me that both Val and Tormund ( yes,Tormund ) may belong to a priestly class, and therefore , may have been even more helpful to