Babeldygob Posted May 23, 2012 Author Share Posted May 23, 2012 When did Martin say that Stannis is the closest thing the series has to a real hero? Because that seems crazy to me. I don't hate Stannis, and I don't think he's a villain (as Roose obviously is). He's an interesting character towards whom I have very ambivalent feelings. But he murdered his brother and was strongly considering murdering his nephew. He's also a humorless prig and a terrible politician. The fact that he's the only one who recognizes the threat of the Others is a great irony of the series, not an indication that Stannis is the hero of the story. I'm still not sure Stannis knew Melisandre would kill his brother in the night. Stannis says to Davos he came here because Melisandre saw that he would win a great victory and win the best part of Renly's army. He's talking to Davos as if he truly does not know what happened to him, but that he has a suspicion. Indeed the Edric Storm part is Stannis going bad. We're probably getting more of that, I think.If you think he's humorless, then you're wrong. It's not because he never laughs he has no humor. He just doesn't laugh at his own jokes and other people take him too seriously to do it. I suggest you read this thread: Stannis may be hard to love, but a terrible politician? I think not. The people in his service do what they're told and everyone takes him seriously. He also knew about Joffrey being a bastard without getting killed like Jon Arryn and Ned Stark. Sure, he's not as cunning as Tyrion or Littlefinger, but who is? It's a well tought out theory, but too ridiculous to take seriously. The Night's King story is just an old fairy tale. Of course GRRM can do whatever he wants with his tale and make it as ridiculous as he wants to, but I think he's too good of a writer to go down such a silly road. Are we reading the the same books? Dragons and shadowbabies being born, shadows of the dead dancing in a tent, fiery ladders, The Wall, Ghosts in the Winterfell crypts, Others, Seeing the future in the fire, seeing the past through a tree, becoming a tree, skinchanging, dragonglass, facechanging, undying people, undead people, etc... I don't see how that would be so ridiculous. There are countless tales about the Nightfort in the books: The Rat Cook, The Night's King and whatnot. The Night' King tales seems to be the most 'realistic' one. Why have tremendous amounts of tales about the Nightfort, a place that i pretty much built around a Weirwood tree, with a moving weirwood door in a secret passage if it doesn't have any other signifance? Why seat Stannis there? The least intact castle of all of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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