DurararaFTW Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Theon is the only one that knows the Boltons are behind the sack of Winterfell and the butchering of it's citizendry, beside Osha, Rickon and his companions in the cave. And why put them in danger? Bran probably just intends to make use of Theon as his legs in Westeros before giving him a merciful death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WetHair Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Bran would save Theon because he is an incredibly emphathetic, magnanimous young man who realizes that Theon is actually worth saving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SynthFG Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Theon is the only one that knows the Boltons are behind the sack of Winterfell and the butchering of it's citizendry, beside Osha, Rickon and his companions in the cave. And why put them in danger? Bran probably just intends to make use of Theon as his legs in Westeros before giving him a merciful death.Stannis's army has picked up enough of the survivors of Cassel's force that the story of who sacked WInterfell is now widely known, Cywen men and the others began drifting in after he liberated Deepwood Mott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillent Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 I mean I think we can atleast somewhat understand where Theon was coming from and why he did the things he did.. he saved Bran and Rickon and was as decent as possible to the people of Winterfell without coming off as weak to his newly found Ironborn. All the while he was trying to prove to daddy that he was a good leader so he could possibly get position over Asha to rule the Iron Islands.And yes even though he did a lot of harm and ended up screwing Robb over, I think Bran can hopefully see the big picture. He HAS suffered greatly and has valuable information. Though I actually thought Asha will try to save him as he is the key for her to have another kingsmoot since all possible parties werent present at the last one (son to the previous king is a pretty good argument)Especially if Davos has a talk with Manderly and needs Theon to confirm what the captured dude was saying about Bran and Rickon being alive.. that will also make the entire north hate him a little bit less. I see quite a few outs for the guy -- he's too grey and good of a character, and he's hated so I dont see him dying :PMy take on it anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautifulsouth0 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Why do we assume that Bran is trying to save Theon? While I'm not a proponent of Bran as the Great Other theory, I also don't feel as if his fusion with the Old Gods has made him benevolent. At first, that's what I thought, yes, because at this point in his arc, we are pitying Theon. But in the WoW Theon chapter, it seems like Bran really wants Stannis to sacrifice Theon to the Weirwood... the ravens are practically applauding Asha's suggestion. With that in mind, I reread Theon's chapters, and actually saw Bran taunting Theon. It's pretty creepy when you think of it that way. Perhaps Bran's first official action via the Weirwood Web is an act of revenge for the destruction of Winterfell and the subjects who died while under his protection? I'll admit, it might seem like a cheesy, modern notion that all of the birds' squawking and the rustling of the leaves are Bran's messages saying "I'm coming for you, Theon." But it really makes sense to me, because after all, why would Bran SAVE Theon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackseer Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 I think Bran still can't control his powers very well. He is trying desperately to talk to someone through a weirwood tree, but no one listen to him. Only Theon showed some kind of reaction. So he would try to save Theon because he needs him to talk to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Damian Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 I agree with some of the posts, Theon still has some explaining to do, publically. Theon needs to spill his guts, the truth and the whole truth, then, cut his fricking head off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babeldygob Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 I think Bran is actually the one suggesting they behead Theon at the hearttree. Read the chapter again. The ravens call 'Theon' and 'tree' a lot. I don't think he means to save him, I think he means to use his (Kings)blood for something. What? One can only guess.I don't think Theon is mentally able to spill the beans about Bran and Rickon. If he was, he would've already done that.Personally I love Theon's character, but I think it would be fitting if he offered his life to the tree (Bran). I think Theon's arc is done. The ultimate redemption would be to give his life in service of the Old Gods(Bran/The Starks). I don't see him becoming King of the Iron Islands with Victarion, Euron and Asha still in play, even if we put aside the fact that he doesn't receive any respect from anyone. Why would the Ironborn be different in that? The only thing I can see Theon having a use for is killing Ramsey, but I don't think that'll happen, he's still too afraid of him and I think he'll never overcome that fear after what's happened to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticWeirwood Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 For why Bran might save Theon, we have only to look at the old Campus Crusade for Cthulhu motto: “Cthulhu saves — he might be hungry later!”Bran may need Theon’s kingsblood to jumpstart Jon back to life again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isiman Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Theon already had his redemption with Jeyne, so yes he could die very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melpomene Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 I agree with the notion that it's likely Bran isn't doing it to save Theon, but to encourage his death/end. And possibly at least try and contact him one last time, tell Thoen something meaningful or perhaps a question.Then Bran can feel like he himself can move on and let go, closing a chapter before he feels comfortable continuing on forever as a greenseer. There is also the option that Theon can be used as a sacrifice for another cause, and so Bran may see him as fully redeemed and at peace.While Bran is a good person, inside and out, he did witness a lot unpleasant things caused by Theon - the worst being seeing the people he cared for and loved getting seriously hurt, and was powerless to stop it. I don't think he could easily let that go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadnaught Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 I don't feel Theon has redeemed himself, and I don't think being executed will change that. I think he may live up to the saying "What is dead may never die, but rises again, harder and stronger". I was hoping Theon might head North join the NW and redeem himself in battle with the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Damian Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 Bran needs for Theon to tell the truth about him and Rickon. this will be the forshadowing of Rickon's impending return to the North via Davos. Rickon will have to be the one they rally around. Bran is in the Cave controlling what he can, I think he understands that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Clegane Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I can't see Bran wanting revenge on Theon, it's quite against his nature imo. I didn't think of needing his king's blood which could be a possibility. I don't believe that saving Jeyne has redeemed Theon quite yet but it's a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crown Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I'm not looking forward to Theon's death. I pray to the Old Gods and the New that's it's going to be a nice death, he already endured so much pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrinceOfSunspear Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 The problem with Theon is that no matter what happens I don't see him being redeemed or dying with honor. Ramsay has broken him mentally and physically to the point where I don't think he can recover a whole lot. His horrific deeds against the Starks and Winterfell have made the entire North despise him and nothing short of him rescuing the real Arya or Rickon or Bran would save him from dying. I think Martin will have him die a death similar to Quentyn Martell. It will be an "OH....oopsies" kinda death. Nothing grandiose or stellar about it. Just one moment he's there the next he's gone. Its sad because I think he had so much potential but with the removal of his fingers, teeth, and possibly his manhood I just don't see him surviving long or serving any significant purpose. He's already continued the lie that Jeyne is the real Arya Stark and once that lie is exposed....Seven save him.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaglewood Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Because Theon is the Gollum of this story you numbskulls. He has some part to play in the greater story before his arc is complete, and Bran with his WeirVision is in the best position to realize this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DurararaFTW Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Theon should survive long enough to see Ramsey die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickard Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 There's power in kingsblood as Melisandre likes to say. Theon's father was a king, he was heir (in a way). Perhaps sacrificing him as Bran saw when he was looking through the eyes of a weirwood brings him some more special powers? Aside from that, maybe Theon becomes Bran's reek? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cancerman Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 I'm in the camp that Bran will just use him as a tool. And I don't think Bran fully understands the repercussions of Theon's actions in the war, I mean he's just trying to grasp his new found powers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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