tyrions sliced nose Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 article is in spanish but still this is quite good news IMO. Dance came out in 2011 and if winds comes out in 2014 thats only 3 years wait which isnt too shabby.http://www.abc.es/20120718/cultura-libros/abci-george-martin-201207181742.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinket2 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 2014 sounds good to me, if GRRM is able to meet that deadline. I can wait that long. I was expecting it to come out in 2016 or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingvarr Snow Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 In this interview, he also says that he has 200 MS pages written.I wonder though, is this more or less what he had in 2011 when he finished his work on ADWD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperry Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 2014 would be excellent if he can meet the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 In this interview, he also says that he has 200 MS pages written.I wonder though, is this more or less what he had in 2011 when he finished his work on ADWD.But even if you knew that, you wouldn't necessarily know how much was first draft and how much was final, how much had been kept and how much thrown away, how much might yet have to be thrown away or rewritten as the process of writing progresses, or the answers to a dozen other relevant questions.Never try to read the entrails of someone else's writing progress on inadequate information. It'll only drive you mad and it won't help you predict the release date, which won't help with the wait anyway. Take it from one who knows. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 George doesn't really say it's coming in 2014. He indicates that it won't be this year, it won't be next year, but he hopes that 2014 could happen. It's not a deadline, it's a hope.At the same round table, he indicates that he has about 200 pages more-or-less in final form, but also about 200 pages in partial form, which none of the Spanish media seem to be noting.You can watch the round table interview (use headphones, audio is quite low) at the SSM collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Moody Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I would imagine, given previous comments and his general reluctance to give specific dates, that what he actually said was more like "2014 or later/at the earliest." Not that I wouldn't love to see the book in 2014, and it's still at least possible, but I wouldn't read too much into this.Or, what Ran said while I was typing. I've got to stop fiddling with word choices... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Mym Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Technically, it says that the book won't come out before 2014, which doesn't mean it'll come out that year... Although I do hope so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Octarina Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Well, he doesn't really says it comes out in 2014, only that it won't be before that. I don't think any of us expected something different anyway, but I do sincerely hope it ends up being 2014, though, especially if it's after the World Cup - for I doubt anyone will be able to read anything during that event here in Brazil, even if you don't like the sport, like me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg1982 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 2014 is the absolute latest it can come out for TV show purposes, so it makes sense that is what he is shooting for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolene Brown Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I see how he can get Winds of Winter out before the show catches up to where it needs to film that material, but it seems literally impossible to me at this point for him to get A Dream of Spring out before the show catches up to that. Not in a mean way, or a complaining way, I just honestly don't see how there is any possibility of it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordino85 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 it depends on how your seeing the series going if you go on a year/season per published volume the series that lines up with aDwD may well not be aired until 2016 ( a storm of swords was released in 2 volumes here in the uk) and that would be depending on if the tv series splits aDwD into 2 series (the book was released in 2 volumes in the uk as well) thus stretching out the current publication to series span up to 2017, not that i'm saying i will happily wait until then for the next book, i'm just saying that GRRM is not really in a massive rush to get tWoW finished by 2014 and as he's mis judged publication dates in the past i'm not going to be getting my hopes up on a 2014 release date, as much as this saddens me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannicus Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Jolene I would agree we might have an issue because no way do I see AFFC being aired on its own.ShowGOT 2011ACOK 2012ASTOS part 1 2013ASTOS part 2/AFFC 2014AFFC/ADWD 2015ADWD 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Antony Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 2014 would be spectacular imo, I hope he can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolene Brown Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Jolene I would agree we might have an issue because no way do I see AFFC being aired on its own.ShowGOT 2011ACOK 2012ASTOS part 1 2013ASTOS part 2/AFFC 2014AFFC/ADWD 2015ADWD 2016This is what I see too, except I'd say AFFC/ADWD 2015, AFFC/ADWD 2016. And that's airdates - they need to start producing it 6 months earlier and writing the scripts/breaking down the storylines earlier than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mance Mance Fancy Pants Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 and if he cant reach the deadline they can always do a prequel season or two about Robert's rebellion and the first 14 years of his rule, it COULD be great if they treated it right. Both of the directors have shown interest in altering the story line slightly, so maybe a loose history could make for a great season or two... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolene Brown Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I just can not see a tv show taking time off from its main storylines to do some kind of prequel season about events 17-20 years earlier. Has any tv show in history ever done anything like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King of Worms Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Technically, it says that the book won't come out before 2014, which doesn't mean it'll come out that year... Although I do hope so!All misdirection and lies... The book will come out next year... shocking everyone!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost of Winterfell Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I just can not see a tv show taking time off from its main storylines to do some kind of prequel season about events 17-20 years earlier. Has any tv show in history ever done anything like that?Spartacus blood and sand. But only because the lead character died after series one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King of Worms Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 and if he cant reach the deadline they can always do a prequel season or two about Robert's rebellion and the first 14 years of his rule, it COULD be great if they treated it right. Both of the directors have shown interest in altering the story line slightly, so maybe a loose history could make for a great season or two...I would love a tv season, short story, prequel book, or even some flashback chapters about this time period. The young Robert and young Ned Stark at war with Rhaegar! It would be great...I am actually hoping for a Ned Stark POV in Winds of Winter or Dream of Spring... as told by Bran the Greenseer viewing the past through the eyes of his dad as a young warrior. This may actually be the manner in which GrrM reveals Ice and Fires biggest secrets to us.Anyways, way off topic... for another thread maybe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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