greatgreyjoy Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 I'm a Theon defender, once he got to the Iron Islands he really didn't have much choice but to go along with the attack on the North. If he refused he would have been imprisoned and branded a traitor. Once he was going along with the invasion, the way he took Winterfel was actually a really smart move, he probably shouldn't have tried to hold it but being arrogant doesn't make him evil. After that everything he did was what he thought was neccissary to have the respect of both the people he was trying to control and his own men who were disloyal and would turn on him for one misstep. It's not like he enjoyed doing what he was doing, he just felt like he had gotten himself too far in already and was left with no alternatives, when offered an alternative, the night's watch, he was more than willing to take it. I still hold he wouldn't have actually killed Bran and Rickon if he found them and most of what he did do was under the influence of a really bad advisor.I also tend to be a shill for Sansa, Stannis, and the Hound. On the other end of the spectrum, unlike most people I just can't find myself defending Jaimie, it would help if he was at least willing to show some remorse for his past actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tijde Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 At first I thought no one. Then I realized I couldn't list a single reason why someone might rail against Doran Martell. I know I've read a number of posts here that do just that, but apparently I dismissed the criticisms so quickly that I can't remember a single one. That's rather unusual for me; I have a habit of considering alternate viewpoints, even if I know I disagree or think they're ridiculous. So yeah, Doran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolene Brown Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Jaime, Theon, the Hound, although I wouldn't actually defend the Bran thing - but ANYTHING ELSE. Same with the Hound/Mycah. I actually thought everything Theon did is defensible at some level, and not much worse than what other "nice guys" do in war, but no one cares because they do it against the bad guys. He was more incompetent than anything else. Soft spot for Roose Bolton and Tywin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Killdragon Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 King Stannis Jon SnowBran StarkSansa StarkTop four characters over here ^Aerys' Kingsguard (and I did defend them pretty viciously in that one thread) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Areo Mace Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Sandor Clegane & Aery II's Kingsguard - It is not their place to judge it was their's to serve, obey, protect. Areo Hotah has it right.Ser Jaime - he did it for love!....that love just happened to be for his sister and the act was pushing a small children out a window high up a tower.Lord Wyman Manderly - The North Remembers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-eyed Onion Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Melisandre. I like the character. Hope she lives to the end of the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet-N-SourRobin Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Every member of the Tyrell family has a permanent moral Get-Out-Of-Jail-Free card in my book.All the Stark kids will get a lot of leeway with me when they start settling their respective scores.Pretty sure there's nothing Asha can do that I wouldn't justify/excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unRobert Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Stannis the mannis.King Bob.And everyone's favorite Bastard o' the Dreadfort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Pretty sure there's nothing Asha can do that I wouldn't justify/excuse.Crap, forgot about Asha. I love her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBean Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Sansa, Bran, Jaime (mostly), Cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Roaring Bear Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Brandon Stark the Wild WolfNed StarkRobb StarkGregor CleganeSandor CleganeJorah MormontTyrion LannisterRandyll TarlyRobert BaratheonThe above, in my opinion, can do no wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caris Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 I will fight anyone who talks smack about Jon Snow in my presence.Or, you know, lecture them about why they are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David C. Hunter Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Stannis (I didnt even flinch when he burned people)Ned StarkJon SnowTyrion - every last thing he does is justified imoOberyn MartellThe Hound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tijde Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 I'm a Theon defender, once he got to the Iron Islands he really didn't have much choice but to go along with the attack on the North. If he refused he would have been imprisoned and branded a traitor. Once he was going along with the invasion, the way he took Winterfel was actually a really smart move, he probably shouldn't have tried to hold it but being arrogant doesn't make him evil. After that everything he did was what he thought was neccissary to have the respect of both the people he was trying to control and his own men who were disloyal and would turn on him for one misstep. It's not like he enjoyed doing what he was doing, he just felt like he had gotten himself too far in already and was left with no alternatives, when offered an alternative, the night's watch, he was more than willing to take it. I still hold he wouldn't have actually killed Bran and Rickon if he found them and most of what he did do was under the influence of a really bad advisor.We can take this off-thread if need be since it's maybe off-topic, but I'm curious: Do you think the above is true for HBO!Theon as well? If you've seen it, that is. I don't have an answer for that question myself (so no need for defense here ;)); just curious about what Theon advocates think of the portrayal. I read the books while Season 2 was airing, and I think the show influenced how I read the character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fallen Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 ` I think the show makes Theon look like an idiot. He's always been insecure, but at the same time he's always proven himself. I don't like how they've portrayed him at all.ETA: Oh yeah, on topic, I'm a Ned-head. I'll argue and defend his decisions all day long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monica21 Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Sandor, Sandor, and Sandor.And also Ned. It didn't help that Sean Bean played Ned because I love Sean Bean and immediately thought, "Well, he's going to die again." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
courser Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 AryaThe HoundJaimeTyrionThe rest of the characters I can have reasonable discussions about... but these 4 I am completely irrational about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alia of the knife Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Lyanna StarkArya StarkBrienne of TarthJon SnowNed Dayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maid of Evenfall Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Jaime. I know he did AWFUL things, but ... hell, I'm not even going to try to defend myself here. LOL I love Jaime, I will always love Jaime, and I can't be convinced otherwise.I also find myself coming to the defense of Ser Jorah, Stannis, Theon, Catelyn, and Sansa quite often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Tippy Wolfsbane Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Stannis, Robb, Jon, and Robert. Yep, I said it, Robert Baratheon. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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