yolkboy Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 what was the name of the lamb girl that Dany saved who was later retaken and raped by a khal?something like eroh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Sparrow Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Eroeh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mother of Dragons Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 What was the reason for Varys to do what he did to Kevan? I dont know how to hide spoilers in html, sorry.I didn't understand his explanation, nor did I find any helpful threads.Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanTasy Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 He wants the regime at King's Landing weakened, now that the Golden Company and a certain pretender for the throne is in Westeros. The Lannisters may think the Tyrells killed Kevan and Pycelle. And maybe Cersei will rise to power again and make a mess of it.ETA Varys: It was for the realm. For the children.(snip) Doubt, division and mistrust will eat the very ground beneath your boy king. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mother of Dragons Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 He wants the regime at King's Landing weakened, now that the Golden Company and a certain pretender for the throne is in Westeros. The Lannisters may think the Tyrells killed Kevan and Pycelle. And maybe Cersei will rise to power again and make a mess of it.ETA Varys: It was for the realm. For the children.(snip) Doubt, division and mistrust will eat the very ground beneath your boy king.Ok, so he wants to let the Lannisters destroy themselves, and Kevan was just too competent to let that happen?You would think he'd want a stable kingdom "for the children, for the realm", but that's probably a discussion with more depth than appropriate for a "thread for small questions".Thanks for responding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azurespecter Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Does Tywin ever discuss it himself? I can only find other people talking about the trap, who say it was to kill or capture Ned. In which case Tywin is nowhere as smart as he's treated. How did he expect the North to react to him ambushing and murdering Ned? And what about Robert? How did he expect to deal with half the realm fighting the Lannisters (and while he was happy to make as many enemies as possible he made no effort to get any allies)? It's just another example of how fucking lucky the Lannisters were.I personally think Tywin always expected Ned Stark to pass judgement and deal with Gregor himself. It's the kind of thing Robert would make Ned do, rather than bother himself with it. They needed Ned out of the way so Cercei could kill Robert without trouble.Tywin does mention that Gregor is "expendable," and may have already decided the monster had served his usefulness. It's altogether possible that Tywin had plans to kill Ned, blame Gregor, and then execute him to appease the Martells. Just a theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmholt Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Ok, so he wants to let the Lannisters destroy themselves, and Kevan was just too competent to let that happen?You would think he'd want a stable kingdom "for the children, for the realm", but that's probably a discussion with more depth than appropriate for a "thread for small questions".Thanks for responding"for the realm"...not wanting to give spoilers but I was laughed around the block for suggesting Illyrio and Varys were partnered to capture the realm for themselves. I was laughed at bc to the laughers this was blindingly obvious. Well, better to be obviously right (sic) than wrong. Sic because we could be wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mother of Dragons Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I guess laughers can laugh at me too, bc I didn't realize it either"for the realm"...not wanting to give spoilers but I was laughed around the block for suggesting Illyrio and Varys were partnered to capture the realm for themselves. I was laughed at bc to the laughers this was blindingly obvious. Well, better to be obviously right (sic) than wrong. Sic because we could be wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnJoff Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Why did LC Mormount take the black? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Eater Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Why did LC Mormount take the black?His wife was dead, his son full-grown and the Night's Watch seemed like something worthwhile to do in the last years of his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Sparrow Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 His wife was dead, his son full-grown and the Night's Watch seemed like something worthwhile to do in the last years of his life.Because the Old Bear was just that fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady of Long Lake Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Why did LC Mormount take the black?Just a guess:) :The Old Bear made a comment about his sister that might be a reason why he wanted to "get away". He found it hard to be in Maege's presence so I wonder if the LC was a little bit old fashioned and sexist? Being surrounded by all those warrior chicks wielding axes and having unwed babies might have freaked him out to the point he felt compelled to leave. Plus, Lynesse was miserable on Bear Island and wanted a fancier life after she married Jorah.That might have made the Mormont homestead an unhappy place for Jeor to be and he joined the Watch to escape all that drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmholt Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 In ADWD Tyrion plays Haldon for secrets and wins. A page later something is said about a big turtle heralding the birth of kings. I presume this is how Tyrion learned that Aegon (or fake Aegon) was with themI used to think he just was a sharp observer and questioner bc he certainly was that. But the question of the wager had not been answered to my knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A horsefaced girl Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 This may not be a small question, but does anyone have any theories as to who and how the wall was built? I know Oldnan said possibly Brandon the Builder? Do the Starks have other long forgotten magics other than wargs to build a magical wall? Will we ever know the answer to this question or will it remain a mystery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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