King Doug Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 No, I don't think so. Why would they?I remember the show, when Barristan was dismissed he threw his sword at the foot of the Iron Throne and told them to melt it and put it with the rest. Maybe that's what he is referencing? I don't think that was in the books though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ser Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 yes in the chapter of sansa in AGOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Doug Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 yes in the chapter of sansa in AGOTFair enough, I stand corrected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon rr stark Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I don't think that's correct. The only thing we have heard of Ned and his Northerners were how fast they move. Besides, Robert's army was united after the Battle of the Bells, so they would have been together the whole time.That makes more sence thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmholt Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Ok. how do we know that?Early in the Game of THrones (p 44 in my paperback) the battle of the Trident says Robert and Rhaegar came together on the Trident ford while the armies crashed around them. They were in single combat By the time Ned came on the scene (Robert and Rhaegar's fight I presume), Rhaegar was dead.This is where I got the idea that Ned was a bit late to the front lines and likely not leading the van. I'd be surprised if anyone but Robert led the van.At the Battle fo the Bells, Robert was hiding out in Stoney Sept, wounded. He was there for days which JonCon searched for him. Ned and Hoster Tully came to rescue him and that was the Battle of the Bells.ETA Tully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmholt Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 At the Battle fo the Bells, Robert was hiding out in Stoney Sept, wounded. He was there for days which JonCon, leading some of Aerys' men, searched for him. Ned came to rescue him and that was the Battle of the Bells. Bella was named for this battle so he had time in town for some action, even though he was wounded, before the battle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon rr stark Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Early in the Game of THrones (p 44 in my paperback) the battle of the Trident says Robert and Rhaegar came together on the Trident ford while the armies crashed around them. They were in single combat By the time Ned came on the scene (Robert and Rhaegar's fight I presume), Rhaegar was dead.This is where I got the idea that Ned was a bit late to the front lines and likely not leading the van. I'd be surprised if anyone but Robert led the van.At the Battle fo the Bells, Robert was hiding out in Stoney Sept, wounded. He was there for days which JonCon searched for him. Ned came to rescue him and that was the Battle of the Bells. I'd assumed this because as commanders they would be leading diffrent sections of the army so would be in different places on the battlefield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmholt Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I'd assumed this because as commanders they would be leading diffrent sections of the army so would be in different places on the battlefieldCould be - but he wouldnt come at the end of the battle if he were leading the van. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Doug Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I'd assumed this because as commanders they would be leading diffrent sections of the army so would be in different places on the battlefieldI agree...Robert most likely had the van, but we don't know for sure. Ned probably the center. Jon Arryn one of the flanks, I say this because Lyn Corbray was on the flank that pushed back the Dornishmen. And I'm assuming the Lords would keep their bannermen with them. That would leave the Riverlords on another flank (not sure who led them since Hoster Tully was grievously wounded at the Battle of the Bells), then someone else commanding the reserves and rear guard.But I'm obviously speculating, the only one I have evidence for is Jon Arryn on a flank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmholt Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I remember the show, when Barristan was dismissed he threw his sword at the foot of the Iron Throne and told them to melt it and put it with the rest. Maybe that's what he is referencing? I don't think that was in the books thoughWithout a dragon they arent likely to do it anyway. Since he isnt a vanquished enemy perhaps it was his intent to suggest that Joffrey have it in a position to be shoved up his butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FittleLinger Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Without a dragon they arent likely to do it anyway. Since he isnt a vanquished enemy perhaps it was his intent to suggest that Joffrey have it in a position to be shoved up his butt.I'll have an educated guess and say that the Iron throne was made of swords only from Aegon the conquerer's battles to get it. They don't just put in swords there, Barristan was emotional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Selmy was clearly mocking Joffrey. He wasn't being serious.He understood how ridiculous it was that he was being dismissed by a child who sat on the Throne of the greatest conqueror in Westerosi history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Doug Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 No one is arguing whether or not Selmy was serious. I was just clarifying a question that someone else asked... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Piece Maker Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Was it ever explained why Mormont joined the Night's Watch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanTasy Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Was it ever explained why Mormont joined the Night's Watch?The explanation that is given in the text is that he wanted to make room for his son to rule Bear Island.From the wiki at westeros.org: As Lord of Bear Island, Jeor marched to war under Lord Eddard Stark's banner during Robert's Rebellion. Within the next six years, he abdicated his seat in favor of his son, Ser Jorah Mormont, and joined the Night's Watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolene Brown Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 The explanation that is given in the text is that he wanted to make room for his son to rule Bear Island.From the wiki at westeros.org: As Lord of Bear Island, Jeor marched to war under Lord Eddard Stark's banner during Robert's Rebellion. Within the next six years, he abdicated his seat in favor of his son, Ser Jorah Mormont, and joined the Night's WatchAh, I had forgotten about that - that could inspire additions to the "If ASOIAF Characters Were Sensible," "Dumbest Moves Ever," and "What the Hell Were You Thinking?" threads. I mean, dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Piece Maker Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 The explanation that is given in the text is that he wanted to make room for his son to rule Bear Island.From the wiki at westeros.org: As Lord of Bear Island, Jeor marched to war under Lord Eddard Stark's banner during Robert's Rebellion. Within the next six years, he abdicated his seat in favor of his son, Ser Jorah Mormont, and joined the Night's WatchThanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Piece Maker Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 In the crypts, some of the Stark Lords and Kings in the North had statues of direwolves beside them. Did any of them have direwolf companions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen of Procrastination Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Which house has the words: " A good friend. A terrible enemy" or vice versa. Could also be that they use synonyms for good and terrible. Bur it has the same meaning. I don´t know the exact translation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteWolf26 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 In the crypts, some of the Stark Lords and Kings in the North had statues of direwolves beside them. Did any of them have direwolf companions?I dont think there is ever any evidence in the text.I like to think so though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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