DirePenguin Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Hi everyone. I just started reading book 3 and trying to understand it as much as I can :)This is from the prologue. What does the latter sentence mean? Chett was very eager not to see Hag's Mire ever again and can't wait for that to happen?Lark could go home if he liked, and the damn Tyroshi too, but not Chett. If he never saw Hag’s Mire again, it would be too bloody soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lummel Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Yes, he never wants to see Hag's Mire (nice name = ugly old woman's swamp) again.Colloquially you might say to somebody that you dislike - "the next time I see you it will be too soon!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errant Bard Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Nice to see you posting again. Is this a read or a reread, in case there is a need to spoil ahead to explain something, if it comes to that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirePenguin Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 Hi, nice to see you guys again too! This is my first read on book 3.Thanks for the name's meaning, I was curious about that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errant Bard Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Note that Martin is not a linguist (doesn't pretend to be either) and so the names for his places tend to be somewhat odd in light of actual English places names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirePenguin Posted September 3, 2012 Author Share Posted September 3, 2012 What is "wind" in this sentence?he wrapped a black wool scarf round the lower part of his face, leaving a slit for his mouth between the winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaleesiDany Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Hi, I was thinking for your first question, it could also mean that he wishes he never saw the place at all.For this one, I don't think it means "wind" like "the wind in the trees" i think it means "wind" like "wind up toy" as in, he wound the scarf around his head but left a space for his mouth.lol, you are really good at pointing GRRM's most awkward sentences. Both of these gave me a strong pause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirePenguin Posted September 3, 2012 Author Share Posted September 3, 2012 Ah so it's not wind as a blowing wind right? I see thanks :)What is brush? Does babe mean baby pig?“It sounds like a babe in the brush, wailing away for milk.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaleesiDany Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 good one, brush is another word like wind with very different meanings depending on how you use it. Brush in this case is from "underbrush" as in, thick plant growth such as grasses and bushes. Maybe you have seen a rabbit hiding in the brush?Babe does mean baby pig, but in this case it could mean a baby anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lummel Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Babe doesn't mean a baby pig (I guess you are thinking of the film :) ). Babe is variant, informal form of baby. A young pig is called a piglet.The thing sounding like a babe wailing for milk is something that is making the sound of a human baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirePenguin Posted September 3, 2012 Author Share Posted September 3, 2012 another 2 sentences.he claimed to be the bastard of some Lannister. Maybe he was at that. Chett had no use for pretty boys, nor for bastards neither, but Sweet Donnel seemed like to hold his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lummel Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 he claimed to be the bastard of some Lannister. Maybe he was at that. = maybe he was a Lannister bastardChett had no use for pretty boys, nor for bastards neither, but Sweet Donnel seemed like to hold his own. = although he was pretty (attractive, good-looking) and a bastard he seemed tough enough to be able to stand up for himself and fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirePenguin Posted September 3, 2012 Author Share Posted September 3, 2012 Ah starting Jaime's chapter now. This book somehow felt much easier than book 2. I was so confused reading Cressen's chapter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirePenguin Posted September 3, 2012 Author Share Posted September 3, 2012 And right after I posted that I found this sentence. :ack:Beneath her roughspun brown breeches were calves like cords of wood, and the long muscles of her arms stretched and tightened with each stroke of the oars.What's calves like cords of wood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lummel Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 calves are (in this context) the muscles at the back of the leg between the knee and the ankle (a calf is also a young cow and calves are young cattle, but not in this context :) )a cord of wood is an American measure of timber. So her lower leg muscles are hard and shaped like a piece of wood - tough and shapely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimWolf Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Oh man, I found it! Huzzah, DirePenguin, enjoy the splendor of A Storm of Swords! Remember, we're here for you through all the hard times to come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirePenguin Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 Thanks JimWolf :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirePenguin Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 A strange woman, to trust her girls to a man with shit for honor. Though she was trusting him as little as she dared.So Catelyn only has a little trust for Tyrion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lummel Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Absolutely tiny amount of trust. The situation is that Catelyn knows he is untrustworthy, but she really wants her girls back. So she has to trust him. But she knows that is unwise. Jaime thinks she is strange to trust him when she thinks he has so little honour.To dare to do something is to be brave enough to do something or to have the courage to do something. So to trust him as little as she dared suggests how desperate she is. She knows it is silly, but is brave enough to give it a chance, in the hope that she can get her girls back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errant Bard Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 This doesn't really reflect about Catelyn but about Jaime, here, since it's his PoV. He is pointing the contradiction of trusting his word to bring Arya and Sansa back, while at the same time thinking he has shit for honor, before amending the thought to highlight that she actually barely trusts him, if at all, she trusts Tyrion's word in open court. If I remember it's how Jaime's thought continue: thinking about still being in chains, with Brienne as guard, and the trust being on Tyrion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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