Rune Targaryen Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 They never say she's dead. This is actually one of the biggest "smaller" things I would like to know about.She is Septa Lemore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nudu Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 First r+l=j topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valyarian rose Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 She is Septa Lemore.And you know this for a fact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonSez Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Who was Daemon Blackfyre's wife/paramour/mother of his children? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Eater Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Who was Daemon Blackfyre's wife/paramour/mother of his children?I don't think we'll find out until The World of Ice and Fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxhound Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 He must have started early, considering he died in his twenties and yet had seven sons and at least two daughters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Angels' Prophet Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I don't think Daemon ever married. His children were probably all bastards by different women. But that's just what I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Eater Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 He must have started early, considering he died in his twenties and yet had seven sons and at least two daughters.He died at 26 with his eldest sons being 12. So it can be inferred that he became a father at 14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aryana Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Why was there such a fuss about Edmure not obeying Robb's orders (apart form ruining war plans)? After all he was protecting his lands and Riverlands are not a part of the Northern kingdom, so he wouldn't be obliged to follow orders from Robb. Was Robb his king or not? Was Robb a king of all the Riverlands if the liege lord took him as his king? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Drunkard Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Jon = Nissa NissaBowen Marsh = Azor AhaiMost plausible theory you've ever heard, or the most plausible theory you've ever heard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dornishman's Wife Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Jon = Nissa NissaBowen Marsh = Azor AhaiMost plausible theory you've ever heard, or the most plausible theory you've ever heard?I've run that through my text-to-voice and now it actually is the most plausible asoiaf theory I've ever heard. Damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughie Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Would I be right to assume that Westeros is a fully feudal society? i.e. one in which all land and property is ultimately held from the monarch.Or can you go out and buy the Freehold of a house? For example, Littlefinger's brothels in King's Landing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lebronn Jaime Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 And you know this for a fact?He's joking.Why was there such a fuss about Edmure not obeying Robb's orders (apart form ruining war plans)? After all he was protecting his lands and Riverlands are not a part of the Northern kingdom, so he wouldn't be obliged to follow orders from Robb. Was Robb his king or not? Was Robb a king of all the Riverlands if the liege lord took him as his king?The lords of the Riverlands had pledged Robb fealty at the end of A Game of Thrones. I can't find the passage, but I think there's a place where Hoster (or possibly Edmure) acknowledges that Robb is his king. In any case, Edmure certainly takes his orders from Robb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nudu Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Why was there such a fuss about Edmure not obeying Robb's orders (apart form ruining war plans)? After all he was protecting his lands and Riverlands are not a part of the Northern kingdom, so he wouldn't be obliged to follow orders from Robb. Was Robb his king or not? Was Robb a king of all the Riverlands if the liege lord took him as his king?Riverlands is a part of kingdom of north. They supported him in their independence war so they will be a vassal of the new kingdom of north. What else would happen? After the war is finished would they swear to the iron throne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Targaryen Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 And you know this for a fact? As Lebron said I was Joking. Why was there such a fuss about Edmure not obeying Robb's orders (apart form ruining war plans)? After all he was protecting his lands and Riverlands are not a part of the Northern kingdom, so he wouldn't be obliged to follow orders from Robb. Was Robb his king or not? Was Robb a king of all the Riverlands if the liege lord took him as his king? Just to add, I think you are mixing the north (region) that is above the neck, and the Kingdom of the north. And Robb titles said King of the North and the riverlands.And if the Tulys swear fealty to someone, the lesser lords that are his subjects are the subjects of this someone also, unless they rebel but normally the great lord speak with the voice of all his subjects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon of the House Stark Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 If Wynafred Manderly were to marry Harrion Karstark, would Wylla become heir of White Harbor or would Wynafred and Harrion rule over both Karhold and White Harbor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Eater Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 If Wynafred Manderly were to marry Harrion Karstark, would Wylla become heir of White Harbor or would Wynafred and Harrion rule over both Karhold and White Harbor?Wynafed is the heiress to White Harbor, and Harrion is the Lord of Karhold so they rule over both Karhold and White Harbor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lux in Tenebris Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Wynafed is the heiress to White Harbor, and Harrion is the Lord of Karhold so they rule over both Karhold and White Harbor.Are we sure it doesn't pass to the next living heir? For example if Wynafed married Harrion she would take up the seat next to him in Karhold, not split time between the two... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimadick Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 1) Is Arnolf Karstark truly on Stannis or Bolton's side? Supposedly he has fealty towards Stannis, but Ramsay was saying something about him being on the Boltons' side?? So he's a turncloak?Strange question. This is a major part of the Alys Karstark storyline. In her words: "Arnolf is rushing to Winterfell, 'tis true, but only so he might put his danger in your king's back. He cast his lot with Roose Bolton long ago.... for gold, the promise of a pardon, and poor Harry's head. Lord Stannis is marching to a slaughter".Jon Snow is alarmed and sends a messenger raven to Stannis. Which remains a cliffhanger throughout "Dance" since no character confirms that the raven reached Stannis.2) Was it Mors Umber and his crew that were banging those drums outside of Winterfell even though the Boltons thought it was Stannis' army coming for them?Tycho Nestoris of Braavos shares this information with Asha: "We had expected to find the king at Winterfell. This same blizzard had engulfed the castle, alas. Beneath its walls we found Mors Uber with a troop of raw green boys, waiting for the king's coming".3) Where are the three Freys Wyman Manderly had treated with at White Harbor? It was Rhaegar, jared, and some other one I forgot. He said they were to meet up at the wedding? I'm assuming Manderly meant the wedding between ramsey and fake arya, or was it the wedding between one of the freys and Manderly's granddaughters?Rhaegar, Jared, and Symond. They depart from White Harbor and receive guest gifts. Which means that their period as honored guests has just ended. They disappear without a trace.In the wedding, Wyman delivers three meat pies. Supposedly containing "seasoned pork". Wyman himself serves pieces first to Roose Bolton, andFat Walda Frey. Then to Aenys and Hosteen Frey. As the two male Freys are served, Wyman states to them: "The best pie you have ever tasted, my lords. Wash it down with Arbor gold and savor every bite. I know I shall."Sometime later a thoroughly drunk Wyman mentions: "We should have a song about the Rat Cook. Singer, give us a song about the Rat Cook".The Rat Cook supposedly served a meat pie to a king. The meat used belonged to the son of the king. Rhaegar Frey happens to be a son of Aenys. If Wyman is emulating the Rat Cook, the implication would be that Aenys consumed the meat of his own son. I also have difficulty seeing who the Boltons have as true house allegiances. Whoresbane looks like he's only with them b/c he wants Greatjon back. Manderly is bidding his time till he gets some Frey bloodbath and/or for Davos to get Rickon back as lord of winterfell so he can declare for Stannis. What about the rest of the northern houses? Why are they with the Boltons?Well, this is the North, not the Westerlands. The leaders of the various Houses play complex political games, they are not slavishly obedient to any leader. The best clues so far are given in the assessments of Jon Snow:*The Ryswells and the Dustins are tied to House Bolton by marriage.*The Hornwoods simply follow their hereditary Lord. And the current Lord is Ramsay Bolton. *The Cerwyns are led by Jonella Cerwyn. Her motivations are uncertain, though she may be looking for ways to solidify her rule.*The Tallharts are nominally led by Eddara Tallhart. The girl is only 10-years-old and unlikely to challenge Roose Bolton on her own. The seat of the House is held by the Iron Men. So the Tallhart troops might by seeking new leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Eater Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Are we sure it doesn't pass to the next living heir? For example if Wynafed married Harrion she would take up the seat next to him in Karhold, not split time between the two...I meant after Wyman and Wylis die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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