Werthead Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 The cities of the bloodless men are surrounded by natural protection. Interesting...It says "cities" but there are no actual cities labeled. Why ? Underground cities ?The far eastern side of the Bone Mountains is 'here be dragons' territory with descriptive names, rumours and possibly flat-out imaginary lands (the city called 'Carcasa' is a nod to that, Carcosa being a mythical city that was adopted into the Cthulu mythos), not hard info and reliable data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lysmonger Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 The far eastern side of the Bone Mountains is 'here be dragons' territory with descriptive names, rumours and possibly flat-out imaginary lands (the city called 'Carcasa' is a nod to that, Carcosa being a mythical city that was adopted into the Cthulu mythos), not hard info and reliable data.Most of essos is partially based off the mythos/indoeuropean godsThe Goat GOd of Qohor The faceless godShade of the Evening-possibly related to the "enchanted wood"City of the winged men-sounds like dreamlandsBloodless men. Cannibal Sands, Land of the ShrykesUlthos -ultharThe lands of always winter and the Sorrows all have visible resemblences to the "plateu of Leng"-there is even the spiders too. IN facet you see anisland named Leng tooo. I've wondered if George actually wanted the continent to go on forever as a ploy to show there is no acccurate picture of the world. THe maps in the 1400s were absolutely innacurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 For those wondering, there's going to be a good deal of new information concerning the Free Cities, the Summer Isles, Sothoryos, and other regions... more than we had originally planned, I think. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Northman Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 For those wondering, there's going to be a good deal of new information concerning the Free Cities, the Summer Isles, Sothoryos, and other regions... more than we had originally planned, I think. :)Ran, regarding Slaver's Bay, did I imagine it or did you confirm on a recent thread that the Slaver's Cities are actually smaller than most people initially thought? I.E, that Yunkai and Astapor have populations only in the tens of thousands, with Meereen at about the combined size of the other two?If so, that would put Meereen probably at around 150k people. Equal to Lannisport, in other words.And Yunkai and Astapor not much bigger than Gulltown or White Harbor, which are also described as having populations in the "tens of thousands."Is my recollection correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protar Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 I remember that as well, in the Top 5 biggest cities thread. Which surprised me, I always felt that Astapor was like KL sized, Yunkai a bit bigger and Meereen over twice the size of both, putting it in the top 5.ETA: Also, I'm very happy we'll be getting more information on Essos. I've always been more interested in the cultures of Essos and hopefully "other regions" will include some of the locations in the far east beyond the Bone Mountains like Yi Ti and the Jhogos Nai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs.Grumpy Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 For those wondering, there's going to be a good deal of new information concerning the Free Cities, the Summer Isles, Sothoryos, and other regions... more than we had originally planned, I think. :)Omg, thank you ! :bowdown: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Northman Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 I remember that as well, in the Top 5 biggest cities thread. Which surprised me, I always felt that Astapor was like KL sized, Yunkai a bit bigger and Meereen over twice the size of both, putting it in the top 5.ETA: Also, I'm very happy we'll be getting more information on Essos. I've always been more interested in the cultures of Essos and hopefully "other regions" will include some of the locations in the far east beyond the Bone Mountains like Yi Ti and the Jhogos Nai.I mentioned it in the Top 5 cities thread. I just want to make sure I wasn't attributing comments to Ran which he did not in fact make. I can't remember in which thread Ran made the relevant post, but I'm convinced I read it recently. Hence my request for confirmation here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 I believe this was related to a discussion concerning Martin's depiction of Essos, here. I cited remarks from the novels about the Slaver's Bay cities being less populous than they were at their heights, and speculated that their populations may in fact be quite small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Northman Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 I believe this was related to a discussion concerning Martin's depiction of Essos, here. I cited remarks from the novels about the Slaver's Bay cities being less populous than they were at their heights, and speculated that their populations may in fact be quite small.Thanks, Ran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protar Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Regarding the brand new locations introduced in the Lands of Ice and Fire, do we know if Martin always had those lands envisioned, or if he made a lot of locations up? I suppose it would be a mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 George made them up when he needed them. So, yeah, they didn't really exist prior to his working on an expanded map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lysmonger Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Ran, in the world book can there be a few gratuitious icctures of Lys? It would be really hilarious, like extremely.Part of me also thinks there would be some tye of recreational drug trade in Lys and Volantis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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