Summer is Ending Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 IIRC it is when Renly seperates his army in ACOK. He takes his cavalry to meet Stannis at Storm's End while his infantry is at Bitterbridge. Catelyn in her POV thinks that Renly is much like Robert, that he is quite rash and head strong in command. However Robert had Ned who would've made sure Robert marched his entire army together and not separated his army.Thank you, that's been itching at my brain for ages but I've been thinking it was in Feast or Dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmholt Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I wonder if there have been any theories about the identity of Pretty Meris.She's big, blonde and ugly. One of Brienne's sisters?The many examples of warrior maids boggles the male mind.Brienne is different because she is not sure who she is yet or how to be who she is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini Ghost Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Even after all these years, Ser Barristan could still recall Ashara’s smile, the sound of her laughter. He had only to close his eyes to see her, with her long dark hair tumbling about her shoulders and those haunting purple eyes. Daenerys has the same eyes. Sometimes when the queen looked at him, he felt as if he were looking at Ashara’s daughter …But Ashara’s daughter had been stillborn, and his fair lady had thrown herself from a tower soon after,So Ser Barristan loved Ashara Dayne. And Ashara couldn't have been Jon's mom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCrannogDweller Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 What happened with Shiera Seastar? Did she give birth to any children? Did she marry anyone? Did she live out her life in Westeros or did she move to Lys or someplace else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikef Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Is there an ETA on the next Dunk and Egg novella? I would hope something comes out on that front in 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbon Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 But Ashara’s daughter had been stillborn, and his fair lady had thrown herself from a tower soon after,So Ser Barristan loved Ashara Dayne. And Ashara couldn't have been Jon's mom.Yes. Assuming that Barristan knows the truth. I don't believe he was there for either event though (at least we have no indication so, and it would seem unlikely) so he knows only what he has heard from unknown sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardstone Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Did the Freys exact a toll from Ned when his host marched south during Robert's Rebellion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Baratheon Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I don't think Ned had to cross the Green Fork on his march. Robb only did because he was rushing to break the siege at Riverrun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shewolfofthenorth Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 so i was re-reading GoT, and i came across a paragraph in Dany's chapter where she walks into her tent to see her dragon's eggs. " for an instant a thousand droplets of scarlet flame swam before her eyes. she blinked and they were gone" to me this sounds a lot like Mel when she is looking into the flames and sees bloodraven in aDwD. Has this been discussed anywhere before? I just thought it was interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtnLion Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Did the Freys exact a toll from Ned when his host marched south during Robert's Rebellion?Ned would have collected Freys for the war if he had been near the Twins. He gets the nickname "The Late Lord Frey" because he did not participate in the rebellion even though being summoned by his Lord in Riverrun until after the fighting was done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardstone Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Ned would have collected Freys for the war if he had been near the Twins. He gets the nickname "The Late Lord Frey" because he did not participate in the rebellion even though being summoned by his Lord in Riverrun until after the fighting was done.They owe Ned no fealty and Hoster Tully had not officially sided with the rebels at that point, so they had no obligation to do so.Phillip Baratheon is right, they probably met the Vale host at a crossing further south that, in the modern conflict, Robb/Roose was not able to get to due to Tywin's host sitting on that side of the river. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R'hllor's Bastard Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Maybe Ned crossed on water? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtnLion Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 They owe Ned no fealty and Hoster Tully had not officially sided with the rebels at that point, so they had no obligation to do so.Phillip Baratheon is right, they probably met the Vale host at a crossing further south that, in the modern conflict, Robb/Roose was not able to get to due to Tywin's host sitting on that side of the river.Ned marched off to war after marrying Catelyn and Jon Arryn married Lysa. Presumably, he went to Winterfell to gather his tropps, while Hoster gathered troops at Riverrun. When Ned returned south, they certainly can link up before getting to the Battle of the Bells, and neither need pass through the Twins, because Riverrun is not under siege and there is no blockade of troops on the King's Road to oppose them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFDanny Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Ned marched off to war after marrying Catelyn and Jon Arryn married Lysa. Presumably, he went to Winterfell to gather his tropps, while Hoster gathered troops at Riverrun. When Ned returned south, they certainly can link up before getting to the Battle of the Bells, and neither need pass through the Twins, because Riverrun is not under siege and there is no blockade of troops on the King's Road to oppose them.Got it backwards. The double wedding takes place after the Battle of the Bells and Ned gathers his bannermen before the wedding. We know the former because Catelyn thinks of Jon Arryn needing a fertile wife because his heir had died there. We know the latter because Lord Dustin is in attendance at the wedding - Cat thinks of his behavior during the "bedding" during Edmure's wedding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtnLion Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Jon Arryn's nephew and heir was with Brandon and killed at King's Landing long before this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summer is Ending Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 She and her sister had been married on the same day, and left in their father’s care when their new husbands had ridden off to rejoin Robert’s rebellion....Lysa’s match with Lord Arryn had been hastily arranged, and Jon was an old man even then, older than their father. An old man without an heir. His first two wives had left him childless, his brother’s son had been murdered with Brandon Stark in King’s Landing, his gallant cousin had died in the Battle of the Bells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFDanny Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Jon Arryn's nephew and heir was with Brandon and killed at King's Landing long before this.Different heir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmholt Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 ...Lysa’s match with Lord Arryn had been hastily arranged, and Jon was an old man even then, older than their father. An old man without an heir. His first two wives had left him childless, his brother’s son had been murdered with Brandon Stark in King’s Landing, his gallant cousin had died in the Battle of the Bells.Obviously he had an heir. His name is Harry. Harry the Heir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Noir Faineant Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Don't flog me for asking, please, but... Any idea when WoW will come out, already?Like, is Mr Martin already working on it? There seems a big number of chapters released already,so I am hopeful it will come faster than the last one.Now, please understand, I don't come here all too often, and I greatly respect Mr Martin.I am just curious, because "sample chapter here, sample chapter there",but the book is not listed anywhere yet. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardstone Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Obviously he had an heir. His name is Harry. Harry the Heir.Harry wasn't an Arryn though.Jon Arryn's nephew and heir was with Brandon and killed at King's Landing long before this.Elbert Arryn died with Brandon Stark at King's Landing before the war started. He was Jon's brother's son.Denys Arryn was killed by Jon Connington at the Battle of the Bells. He was Jon's sister's daughters husband from a lesser branch of Arryn but he still had the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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