Kanon Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Yet his is the only army made up of followers of the Seven, the Old Gods and R'hllor.He forced the wildlings to bow to his god (or be forced to stay beyond the Wall), burned men alive for desperate cannibalism, and accepted Melisandre terms of giving Winterfell to Jon if he burned the symbol of the Old Gods. Stannis might not a be a religious fanatic but he enables them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ab aeterno Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 He forced the wildlings to bow to his god (or be forced to stay beyond the Wall), burned men alive for desperate cannibalism, and accepted Melisandre terms of giving Winterfell to Jon if he burned the symbol of the Old Gods. Stannis might not a be a religious fanatic but he enables them...This is true to an extent, but he doesn't force the issue with Davos or the King's Men or the Northmen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanon Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 This is true to an extent, but he doesn't force the issue with Davos or the King's Men or the Northmen.That is true, but I still don't like it. Religious fanaticism is always bad and introducing Rhllorism is something that will be a problem for the entire continent for many generations after Stannis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Cortnay Penrose Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Stannis has taken over the thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ab aeterno Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Stannis has taken over the thread!Aren't you dead? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Pope Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Have you read Barristan's POV in ADWD? We see in his POV that he is a man who is trying to do the best he can in a world where it is nearly impossible to know what the right and honorable thing is. He even decides not to Knight his squires because he does not want them to be touched by the his potential dishonor. He is one of the few characters who truly cares about the common people and especially the children and I do not know how somebody can read his POV and come away with a negative attitute towards him.I do sense a good deal of pride in him (not that I think there's anything wrong with that). He never spells it out, calling himself true knight, a knight must be humble. But when the Dornishmen calls themselves knights he seems to take it as a challenge, as if they had questioned his skill and he does marvel over the memory of being knighted by the king himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Independent George Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Stannis has taken over the thread!Of course. Eventually, Stannis takes over everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Éadaoin Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Of course. Eventually, Stannis takes over everything.But will he take the Seven Kingdoms? :smug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Walrus Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 But will he take the Seven Kingdoms? :smug:Doubt it... But that could just be my inner Daenerys Stan speaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where Boars Glow Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 But will he take the Seven Kingdoms? :smug:No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ab aeterno Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 But will he take the Seven Kingdoms? :smug:We can only hope he does. For all our sakes. For the sake of justice. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Pope Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Stannis cannot take over much anything, but his fans on the other hand... :commie: :commie: :commie: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Crow Come Over Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 It's something called 'character developement' as we clearly see now the current Barristan is not the same as the 'old' Barristan and is not blindly putting duty before honor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of the Smiling Knight Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 It's safe to say that Barristan the Bold is officially a HUMAN. This book is about REAL people and so they should be treated as such. He made mistakes, but he's no Jackboot thug. C'mon man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Éadaoin Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 We can only hope he does. For all our sakes. For the sake of justice. :PThough if the enthusiasm of Stanstans could put him on the throne, I daresay he'd be there already. ;)(Stanstans? I'm not sure what to call you guys.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingelheim Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 His POV in ADWD saved the Meeren arc to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djinn Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 He's Areo Hotah sprinkled with delusions and hypocrisy. But he may get better yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Pope Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 He's Areo Hotah sprinkled with delusions and hypocrisy. But he may get better yet.He should take more advise from Missandei. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ab aeterno Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Though if the enthusiasm of Stanstans could put him on the throne, I daresay he'd be there already. ;)(Stanstans? I'm not sure what to call you guys.)King's Men will do ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdXRoss Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Interesting point about Barristan standing back when Robert's will was torn up - I sort of got the impression that Ned was half expecting Barristan to back him up and he got precisely no help from that quarter. My distinct impression from his reappearance in the east is that Barristan is consciously trying to make amends for all the times he remained silent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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