Red Raven Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Just because they're not exact it doesn't mean that there wasn't some influence. It's not all or nothing. GRRM said that his influences aren't a 1 to 1 relation. The Dothraki aren't exact copies of the Mongols, nor is the Red Wedding an exact copy of the Black Dinner. It's possible that GRRM gave a few of Hughes's characteristics to Aerys while drawing on other things for other parts of Aerys's background, physical appearance, and psychological profile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arataniello Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Oberyn and Mountain = Jörmungandr and Thor during Ragnarök Thor slays the giant serpent/snake but can only move eight more steps before he drowns/dies of Jörmungandr's poison. This is really stretching the bounds of what could constitute an homage. Just about the only similarity between the two events was the mention of poison in both cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Drake Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 and well oberyn being called the viper and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anarchosaurus Rex Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) The Battles of the Trident and Whispering Wood remind me of the Battle of Chancellorsville. In both battles, an outnumbered army (Robb's army, the Army of Northern Virginia) divided its forces, relied on feints to distract from bulk of the army as it manuevered to attack (Bolton, McLaws and Anderson), and ambushed and crushed the surprise enemy (capture of Jaime, Jackson's turning movement). In both battles, skillful strategy overcame sheer strength of arms. I know GRRM is an avid reader of medieval history, not the American Civil War, but whether Chancellorsville was the inspiration or not, it cannot be denied that it does fit. Edited March 9, 2014 by Anarchosaurus Rex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belisarius09 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I think I may have found the inspiration for Ser Arthur Dayne. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Marshal,_1st_Earl_of_Pembroke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarkDragon Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 (edited) Tyrion Lannister: Jeffery HudsonWhy? Hudson was appointed Captain of Horse by Queen Henrietta Maria.He was proud of this, and when William Crofts mocked him, he killed him in a duel. Following this, he was exiled from England. Duels had been outlawed by France, and the Queen needed no war with them after their recent Civil War. After which he was enslaved by pirates. Following being freed, he was imprisoned for being a "Roman Catholick". 2 years after, he died in complete mystery. Tyrion Lannister was made Hand of the King and fought at Blackwater and made the chain of Constantinople King's LandingFollowing provocation, he killed Tywin Lannister.He was also accused of killing Joffrey Lannister, and fled the countryFollowing which, Tyrion was enslaved for a short time.???Will Tyrion's Lannister background impede any attempt at returning to Westeros??????Mystery??? Edit: I would reveal The Mountain... but that might spoil the books for you. Edited March 14, 2014 by StarkDragon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrio the Dancer Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Ok small one: Jon Rxton is a reference to charachter from Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's The Lost World Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Killer Snark Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 The High Sparrow is fairly blatantly influenced by the figure of Girolama Savonarola, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HosteenOsteen Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Yes, I think the entire Faith Militant has an aspect of Savonarola..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubarey Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 The Faith Militant resembles in many respects the Catholic order of Jesuits in combination with the Holy Inquisition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpes Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) Putting Jaime and Cersei together you get...Jersey! (or not) :laugh: Edited April 7, 2014 by Sharpes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoomOfValyria Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Saw a historical parallel in the princess and the queen. When the riots started in kings landing, the maester gives several reasons for its start. Among them are a Baker being killed, a little girl being killed, and the throwing of rocks.To me this is very similar to the Boston massacre. Armed soldiers and civilians in a confined area. And something as small as a snowball starting a huge event. With debate on what truly started it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HosteenOsteen Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Or the Tunisian street vendor whose death started off the Arab Spring in 2011 (and tPatQ is recent enough for GRRM to have known about this). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubarey Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 "You don't hit bullseye every time, but if you're having sex without condom, you can't actually prevent conception. Well, you could use withdraw method, but often man don't want to ruin a pleasure by pulling out (that even happens unintentionally) so that method fails."The Vendor set himself on fire, not really thesame scenerio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhh Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Someone's probably brought this up already but I always thought Dany's inner monologues are really similar to Scarlett O'Hara's pov in Gone with the Wind. They both have a similar catchphrase about not looking back which they use to empower their actions. Both of them have to prevail through challenging circumstances that require them to do assertive actions for survival and later on self-profit. And, last and most annoyingly, they are attracted to 'bad boy' types like Rhett and Daario and constantly discount their moral similarities to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light a wight tonight Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Don't recall seeing this similarity: Lann the Clever and Vance's Cugel the Clever, both were practiced con men, though Cugel generally outsmarted himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZebuzeBuza Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Probably this has been posted before, but in the first LOtR chapter it's said that Frodo's father was named "Drogo"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Killer Snark Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 It's been posted. I noticed that myself though when I finally got around to reading LotR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castellan Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) Tyrion's dream of Valhalla When Tyrion is recovering after the Battle of Blackwater, before he becomes conscious he has confused dreams which seem based on memories of being removed from the battlefield. But after he has woken a couple of times; worked out that they must have won the battle; and had a dose of milk of the poppy he has a pleasant dream about the rewards of victory which is very reminiscent of the dead who die in battle being feasted at Valhalla. The dream includes three people who will be dead before too long: Marillion, Tywin and Shae, together with Tyrion and Jaime. Tywin has a smile (the only time we see him smile is as a corpse) while Shae is teasing him and calling him her giant of Lannister.This time he dreamed he was at a feast, a victory feast at some great hall. He had a high seat on the dais, and men were raising their goblets and hailing him as hero. Marillion was there, the singer who'd journeyed with them through the Mountains of the Moon. He played his wood harp and sang of the Imp's daring deeds. Even his father was smiling with approval. When the song was over, Jaime rose from his place, commanded Tyrion to kneel, and touched him first on one side and then on the other with his golden sword, and he rose up a knight. Shae was waiting to embrace him. She took him by his hand, laughing and teasing, calling him her giant of Lannister. Edited April 6, 2014 by Castellan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howling Mad Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Hallis Mollen a play on the name Hollis Mason from the Watchmen the first night owl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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