Falcon2909 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 ELMO, GROVER, KERMIT AND OSCAR TULLY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleevedge Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 "Varamyr gave them his seed, took a hank of their hair to remember them by, and sent them back" Could Varamyr taking hair from the women he had be a reference to "The Rape of Lock"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherFromAnotherMother Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 F & B spoiler. Page 670 (U.S.) @The Fattest Leech Spoiler The acolytes of Yndros could supposedly transform themselves from male to female and female to male through the act of love... This has got to be a nod to kemmering in Le Guin's The Left Hand of Darkness. The greatest Leech already let me know George was a big fan of Le Guin. This one seems spot on to me. ravenous reader and The Fattest Leech 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fattest Leech Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 32 minutes ago, OtherFromAnotherMother said: F & B spoiler. Page 670 (U.S.) @The Fattest Leech Hide contents The acolytes of Yndros could supposedly transform themselves from male to female and female to male through the act of love... This has got to be a nod to kemmering in Le Guin's The Left Hand of Darkness. The greatest Leech already let me know George was a big fan of Le Guin. This one seems spot on to me. Brilliant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zionius Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Saagael is a god in GRRM's fanfiction Only Kids are Afraid of the Dark. The cunning Baldrick refers to Baldrick in Blackadder, whose catch phrase is "I have a cunning plan". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zionius Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 It's known Oscar Tully refers to Oscar, but there're even more, as noticed in this post. Quote Then as now, the riverlords were a fractious, quarrelsome lot. Kermit Tully, Lord of Riverrun, was their liege lord, and nominally commander of their host…but it must be remembered that his lordship was but nineteen years of age, and “green as summer grass,” as the northmen might say. His brother Oscar, who had slain three men during the Muddy Mess and been knighted on the battlefield afterward, was still greener, and cursed with the sort of prickly pride so common in second sons. In the Muppet, both Oscar and Kermit are green, and Oscar is indeed "greener". Oscar became green after a trip to Swamp Mushy Muddy, which is the namesake for Muddy Mess. The hairy bear and SaffronLady 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 6 hours ago, zionius said: It's known Oscar Tully refers to Oscar, but there're even more, as noticed in this post. In the Muppet, both Oscar and Kermit are green, and Oscar is indeed "greener". Oscar became green after a trip to Swamp Mushy Muddy, which is the namesake for Muddy Mess. Don't forget about their father Lord Elmo and his grandfather Lord Grover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daendrew Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 I found a nod to Shakespeare in ASOIAF: “A reader lives a thousand lives before he dies, said Jojen. The man who never reads lives only one.” -A Dance with Dragons - Bran III Which was a nod to: “Cowards die many times before their death. The valiant never taste of death but once” -Julius Caesar, Act II, Scene II Eltharion21, Lost Melnibonean and SaffronLady 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S. D Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Tiberius Caesar about Augustus Caesar: Quote Tiberius: Well don't bother on my account, for Gods know I've done my best. He's never liked me, never. Thirty years I've run his errands for him; I've fought on his bloody frontiers, collected his taxes. He never once put his hand on my arm and said "Thank you, what would I have done without you?" Now he sends me off to Illyricum and he doesn't even plan a farewell dinner; not even a goodbye, just "Get on your horse and ride." Well, damn him! I retired before once and I can do it again! Let his precious grandson run his empire for him. I'm sick to death of it. -I, Claudius Stannis Baratheon about Robert Baratheon: Quote "Why should I avenge Eddard Stark? The man was nothing to me. Oh, Robert loved him, to be sure. Loved him as a brother, how often did I hear that? I was his brother, not Ned Stark, but you would never have known it by the way he treated me. I held Storm's End for him, watching good men starve while Mace Tyrell and Paxter Redwyne feasted within sight of my walls. Did Robert thank me? No. He thanked Stark, for lifting the siege when we were down to rats and radishes. I built a fleet at Robert's command, took Dragonstone in his name. Did he take my hand and say, Well done, brother, whatever should I do without you? No, he blamed me for letting Willem Darry steal away Viserys and the babe, as if I could have stopped it. I sat on his council for fifteen years, helping Jon Arryn rule his realm while Robert drank and whored, but when Jon died, did my brother name me his Hand? No, he went galloping off to his dear friend Ned Stark, and offered him the honor. And small good it did either of them -A Clash of Kings, Prologue. Lost Melnibonean and Eltharion21 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zionius Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 In F&B, Baela brought "a conjurer of cheap tricks she took for an actual sorcerer" to the Red Keep, which is a nod to LOTR movie, where Gandalf said "Do not take me for some conjurer of cheap tricks". Lost Melnibonean 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Map Guy Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) A meteorite crash lands on the planet. A city or a country is formed at the center of the location. The meteorite is weaponized. A weaponized meteorite is only wielded by someone deemed worthy. Starfall = Wakanda Dawn = Vibranium The current Sword of the Morning = The current Black Panther STARFALL FOREVAAAA!!! Sooo ... T'Challa was protecting R+L at TOJ huh? Edited February 10, 2019 by The Map Guy SaffronLady and Lost Melnibonean 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Map Guy Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) Robert Strong may be a Frankenstein's monster in the ASOIAF world. He may be named after Robert Baratheon and how Strong he was. BUT What if Robert Strong was a medieval Terminator? T-1000 Terminator was played by Robert Patrick in the movies. T-800 Terminator was played by Arnold Schwarzenegger, whose started his movie career as 'Arnold Strong' in the credits OR the name could be both inspired by Robert Baratheon internally, and Terminators externally. If Jon Con = John Connor ... is this a foreshadowing of a future duel between Jon Connington and Robert Strong? They do seem to be on a collision course. For fun, who would be Sarah Connor then? TV Sarah Connor = Lena Headey = Cersei ... Cersei's guardian Robert Strong = T-800, a friendly Terminator Movie Sarah Connor = Emilia Clarke = Daenerys ... Daenerys' future foe Robert Strong = T-1000, an enemy Terminator Edited February 10, 2019 by The Map Guy SaffronLady, OtherFromAnotherMother and Eltharion21 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanetree Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 "If you must know more, his name is Beorn. He is very strong, and he is a skin-changer." —Gandalf. The Hobbit, Chapter VII. "Queer Lodgings" Obviously, Varamyr Sixskins is a homage. Bears seem to be a favorite with GRRM. I wonder if he follows the Chicago Bears...or maybe the Cubbies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunFalconryFacts Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Blanetree said: "If you must know more, his name is Beorn. He is very strong, and he is a skin-changer." —Gandalf. The Hobbit, Chapter VII. "Queer Lodgings" Obviously, Varamyr Sixskins is a homage. Bears seem to be a favorite with GRRM. I wonder if he follows the Chicago Bears...or maybe the Cubbies? He loves his football, but he's a Jets and Giants fan. :) If you're a football fan yourself, you might enjoy his football-related posts on his blog. I absolutely love them - he is knowledgable, opinionated, passionate, colourful. It is very good reading, in other words! He didn't post much about football this season, unfortunately, but I hope he'll be back to his old NFL-obsessive ways soon. If Sam Darnold starts turning the Jets around, and if Eli Manning hangs up his boots, GRRM will have plenty to say about it, you can be sure! And welcome to the forum. :) The Map Guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Map Guy Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 (edited) NFL in ASOIAF:https://grrm.livejournal.com/258190.html For fun: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/List_of_houses Arizona Cardinals Petyr Baelish? Atlanta Falcons According to GRRM: House Arryn Baltimore Ravens GRRM: Citadel of Oldtown, or House Blackwood, or Ser Clayton Suggs Buffalo Bills House Prester? or Gerold Hightower, the White Bull? Carolina Panthers An animal of the Summer Isles Chicago Bears GRRM: House Mormont Cincinnati Bengals GRRM: Political Party in Volantis Cleveland Browns House Clegane, a bulldog mascot Dallas Cowboys Patrek of King's Mountain, blue 5-point star on silver field Denver Broncos House Ryswell, or GRRM: Dothrakis Detroit Lions GRRM: House Lannister Green Bay Packers GRRM: butchers and tanners of King's Landing & Oldtown Houston Texans House Bulwer, longhorn mascot Indianapolis Colts House Ironsmith Jacksonville Jaguars House Santagar? leopard ~ jaguar Kansas City Chiefs Khals of the Dothraki khalasar Los Angeles Chargers House Dondarrion Los Angeles Rams House Rambton Miami Dolphins House Lowther Minnesota Vikings The Ironborn? New England Patriots Belicho, a triarch of Volantis (Evil Little Bill), or GRRM: The Others New Orleans Saints GRRM: High Septon, Septas, or the Faith Militant Oakland Raiders Mance Rayder? lol Philadelphia Eagles House Mallister Pittsburgh Steelers GRRM: smiths and armorers San Francisco 49ers GRRM: The gold-miners of Lannisport Seattle Seahawks House Fowler Tampa Bay Buccaneers Salladhor Saan Tennessee Titans Titan of Braavos Washington Redskins Dothrakis Feel free to disagree with any. I am not 100% sure on all of them anyways. On 2/17/2019 at 1:32 PM, Blanetree said: Bears seem to be a favorite with GRRM. I wonder if he follows the Chicago Bears...or maybe the Cubbies? THAT IS BLASPHEMY! On 2/17/2019 at 2:55 PM, FunFalconryFacts said: He loves his football, but he's a Jets and Giants fan. Correct! New York Giants = Ice = The wildling giants Beyond the Wall, OR according to GRRM: the wildlings & Night's Watch New York Jets = Fire = Spoiler the fire dragons of Valyria, House Targaryen I was always told that having dragons in a medieval environment was the equivalent of having nukes in modern time. I disagree 100%. Nukes destroy without bias. Once activated, there is no precision in destruction. Also, a nuke cannot combat another nuke. It may be a countered-response to each other, but there would be no clear winner if two opposing sides detonate a nuke against each other. What I believe is a better analogy of dragons in ASOIAF are modern day fighter Jets. Fighter Jets can attack with precision. Jets can combat other jets. Jets can be taken down from the ground with a proper and accurate weapon, but it is rare. If one side of a battle has a fighter jet (or three) and the other side does not...that is a massive advantage with the fighter jet. Dragons can attack with precision. Dragons can combat other dragons. Dragons can be taken down from the ground with a proper and accurate weapon, but it is rare. If one side of the battle has a dragon (or three) and the other side does not...that is a massive advantage with the dragon. So in conclusion, GRRM's and my beloved New York Jets = House Targaryen The team chant: D-R-A-G-O-N-S DRAGONS! DRAGONS DRAGONS! I don't know how well the non-American ASOIAF readers know American football ... but American football is a sport that closely resembles Warfare. This is a reason why GRRM loves football. It is a very tactical sport. The coaches decision matters 100% ... where as other sports, the players can take over the game without the coaches' direct instructions ... like soccer, basketball, baseball, hockey...etc. With American football, GRRM can think like a military general and it keeps him mind sharp. If you are unfamiliar with American football, I can try to explain a little bit ... but this will be consider OFF-TOPIC, so I will put on 'spoiler-tags' to hide them: Spoiler Off-the-field generals = coaches calling the specific tactics of each play, they DO NOT need to physically perform On-the-field officers = the 'quarterback player' of the offense and the 'safety player' of the defense relays the coaches' instructions to the rest of the players, they also make adjustments if needed, and they need to physically perform too On-the-field soldiers = the other 10 players, they follow orders and need to physically perform The Offensive Goal: Win every 10-yard skirmish on 4 tries or less. If you gain the 10 yards or more of territory, you get another 4 tries at another 10 yards. It is repeated until you reach your enemy's 'endzone' that is 100 yards away. In these 10-yards/4-tries, you can run with the football, or throw/catch the football. The coaches decides each play for each try, and they would occasionally employ trickery to deceive the Defense so they can obtain more territory. If a thrown-football is not caught legally, the Offense starts their next try in the original spot from the previous try. Each tries ends after a player with the football is tackled to the ground, runs out-of-bounds, does not catch a thrown-football, or the team scores. The football is like a bomb, and as the Offense you need to carry it into the enemy's castle ('endzone'). If you explode the bomb inside the enemy's castle, you get 7 points (called a 'touchdown'). The Defensive Goal: Deny each of enemy's 10-yards/4-tries and deny the enemy from ultimately scoring. If successfully defended a 10-yards/4-tries, your team will get the football back without the enemy scoring. You can also get the football back if you legally take it away from the Offense, by a 'fumble' or a 'interception' The 4th try: If the Offense cannot achieve the 10-yards in 3 tries, the Offense has three options and the General makes the decision: Try to cross the original 10-yard marker on the final try. If failed, the other team gets the football on the last spot. Kicking a 'field-goal' for 3 points if you are in range of that yellow u-shape bar above the castle If you are not in range of the yellow u-shape bar, 'Punting' the football away so your opponent has a longer distance to travel when it is their turn to be the Offense next. If any points are scored, the other side will get the ball next. A 'field-goal' would be like detonating the bomb outside of the castle, but a 'touchdown' would be detonating the bomb inside the castle. Why the weird numbers of 3 points for a 'field-goal' and 7 points for a 'touchdown'? Because ONE bomb exploding inside the castle would still do more damage than TWO bombs exploding outside of the castle. 1 Touchdown > 2 Field-goals BUT 1 Touchdown < 3 Field-goals The highest score after four 15-minute quarters wins the game. That is pretty much American football quickly explained ... but there are like 200 other rules. Just remember, American football is the closest sport to Medieval Warfare (without death of course) ... tactics of the generals, performance of warriors, gaining territory closer to the enemy's castle (Offense), defending territory so your enemy cannot attack your own castle (Defense). Edited February 20, 2019 by The Map Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daendrew Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) Laenore Velaryon is an homage to GRRM's minion Lenore. https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Laenor_Velaryon Edited February 26, 2019 by Daendrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fattest Leech Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 25 minutes ago, Daendrew said: Lanore Velaryon is an homage to GRRM's minion Lenore. https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Laenor_Velaryon I always assumed his minion was honored as Lemore. But you could be more right than I. Nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daendrew Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 11 hours ago, The Fattest Leech said: I always assumed his minion was honored as Lemore. But you could be more right than I. Nice! You are right. Lenore is the Many-Faced-Minion. The Fattest Leech 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Clegg Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 I posted this elsewhere, but the character Shae may have been inspired by one of France's most infamous poisoners, Catherine Deshayes: http://murderpedia.org/female.D/d/deshayes-catherine.htm Catherine Deshayes, sometimes known as Catherine Monvoisin, or simply La Voisin was a French serial killer. She was born around 1640, and executed as a witch on 16 February 1680, in Paris; together with several others. She played an important role in the so-called Affair of the Poisons. She lived from charging high fees to make horosocopes. She celebrated black masses, practiced abortions, sold love potions and poisons. She is said to have sacrificed infants. Pronouned with the silent 'S' in French, so clear similarity there. It's also been speculated that Shae may have had a hand in one or two of the poison plots going on in Storm of Swords. There's admittedly a lot of Melisandre in her as well, though. I really love the idea that GRRM has been seeking inspiration from women in history who were instigators and masters of their own fate - even if Deshayes was on the shadier end of the scale. It makes the books that much more grounded in reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Map Guy Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) I don't know about you guys, but this fictional decisive-Hamlet character reminds me of Jaime Lannister: "Hey King Aerys ... you want me to kill my father? big mistake...." Kingslaying King Claudias Throwing someone off a tower The cockiness Wielding a sword with his left hand, while his right hand is stiff The golden color embroidery on the outfit The crimson color scarf on the horse Successful wildfire plot for the castle's explosion in the end?? For all the A+J=J&C believers, Arnie made a "big mistake" by killing his actual father lol The biggest coincidence in this film "Last Action Hero" and how Arnie = decisive Hamlet, Prince of Denmark ~ Jaime Lannister ... is that the actor Nikolaj Coster-Waldau (HBO GoT's Jaime) is also Danish! Also Charles Dance, who plays Jaime's father Tywin Lannister, is also in this 1993 film! "If God was a villain, he would be me" Probably just big coincidences when GRRM was doing the initial HBO casting huh? Regardless, Nikolaj & Charles were great picks. Who knows, maybe Jaime Lannister will be ASOIAF's Last Action Hero..... Edited May 17, 2019 by The Map Guy TOTALLY FORGOT Nikolaj Coster-Waldau is Danish! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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