Metopheles Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 PycellePucelle (often used as other name for Jeanne d'Arc, especially in the area where she was born) means virgin and maid, but also prostitute and slut. Fits the Grandmaester very well. Not only does he frequent them, he also is one. And furthermore, maesters are not allowed to have sexual relationships, so this name makes him hypocritical...he should be a virgin, but he is a slut. Also, Domremy...Domeric. For the name fanatics out there, like me :)Domremy-la-Pucelle. Home town of Jeanne d'Arc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 (edited) Reading "The Iron King" by Maurice Druon, which GRRM is certainly a fan of. Its historical fiction, and in this, Marguerette (spelling?) and her cousin Blanche are cukolding their husbands, the future King Louis, and Louis' younger brother Charles. M's other cousin, Jeanne, is aiding them with the affair by carrying messages and being an alibi. Bears striking similarities to Margaery and her cousins, who are said to have taken lovers, and one of the cousins is supposedly just there to "assist." :)Also, one of those who accuse the cousins is their sister in law, Queen Isabella, who if memory serves me right has an affair herself, which is a parallel to Queen Cersei, who is mother-in-law to Margaery, and has accused her of the crimes she is guilty of herself Edited April 26, 2014 by HelenaAndTheMachine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metopheles Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 could Howland Reed and his seat that is kinda moving be considered as homage to Howl's moving Castle? Howl is also a magician and always tries to be neutral in terms of war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Antony Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Stannis is soooo Tiberius with a dash of Richard III Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metopheles Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Highgarden and House Tyrell Sky Garden in Ireland, created by James Turrell, a famous american artist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Killer Snark Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Metopheles - Funny. Something similar had crossed my mind before, but the thought was more half-formed and subliminal. I think you might be onto something there, but also the moving castle theme can also be found in Larry Niven's Ringworld series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bori Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 The name of House Manderly may be related to Manderley, the fictional and memorable estate in Hitchcock's RebeccaI used to even spell them the same way until I checked the Wiki... However, Manderly's name in the book derives from the river Mander in the Reach, so it might be just an unintentional similarity, but I thought it worth mentioning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon I Blackfyre Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I've always thought that Arthur Dayne was an obvious reference to King Arthur's character.Their names are the same, they're both good with swords and their swords are freakin legendary.Excalibur vs Dawn, that would be good to see : D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor Is Kane Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I doubt any of the references/homages I spotted within the books are ones that haven't been picked up and mentioned here before, but (as my username suggests) I do have a theory which goes the other way. I believe that the WWF/E writers of the late '90s based the story of the Undertaker and Kane on that of the Mountain and the Hound. For those who don't know, Kane's kayfabe back story was that he was horrifically burned as a child in a house fire caused by his older brother, the Undertaker, leaving him permanently scarred both physically and mentally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungholes First Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 I doubt any of the references/homages I spotted within the books are ones that haven't been picked up and mentioned here before, but (as my username suggests) I do have a theory which goes the other way. I believe that the WWF/E writers of the late '90s based the story of the Undertaker and Kane on that of the Mountain and the Hound. For those who don't know, Kane's kayfabe back story was that he was horrifically burned as a child in a house fire caused by his older brother, the Undertaker, leaving him permanently scarred both physically and mentally.I started off as an Unsullied, and the moment Sandor fights Gregor in the show I chuckled and muttered Undertaker vs. Kane.Almost everyone else I've shown it to has done the same.I also laugh whenever it mentions in the books that the Starks are fighting the ironmen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metopheles Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 It might be an in-universe homage...Robb Starkand Robert Strong. Stark means in german "strong".So, basically Robert Strong=Stark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur II Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Lady Taena in the books has displayed a character that has acted downright...parasitical in her dealings with both Margery Tyrell and Cersei Lannister. I find that is an interesting coincidence given the genus name of the tapeworm, Taenia.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taenia_%28tapeworm%29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Pycelle Pucelle (often used as other name for Jeanne d'Arc, especially in the area where she was born) means virgin and maid, but also prostitute and slut. Fits the Grandmaester very well. Not only does he frequent them, he also is one. And furthermore, maesters are not allowed to have sexual relationships, so this name makes him hypocritical...he should be a virgin, but he is a slut. Also, Domremy...Domeric. For the name fanatics out there, like me :) Domremy-la-Pucelle. Home town of Jeanne d'Arc. The one who seems to reference Jeanne d'Arc to me is Melissandre, although some facts about her seemed to be purposely inverted. She's sent by (a) God to a man to tell him he's the rightful King. -> correct. It's said that when Jeanne died, only her heart remained untouched after the fire. Stannis' symbol is a burning heart - > subverted She was known as a maiden. Melissandre's shadows come from her after she has sex with Stannis. -> subverted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dormammu Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 When Joffrey invites his wedding guests to suggest a name for his new sword, the first put forward is "Stormbringer", which is Elric the Melnibonean's wilful and treacherous sword. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 When Joffrey invites his wedding guests to suggest a name for his new sword, the first put forward is "Stormbringer", which is Elric the Melnibonean's wilful and treacherous sword.Isn't that show only? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metopheles Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Isn't that show only? Yes. And he actually suggested Stormbreaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Yes. And he actually suggested Stormbreaker.The subtitles on my TV read Stormbringer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metopheles Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 The subtitles on my TV read Stormbringer. Can't argue with that. I just watched the scene a couple times and always here the other. But your homage was listed five posts or so before you, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Targaryen Warg Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I don't know if its been said before but in the Trinity Series (Fiona McIntosh) there are mentions of places that sound like Dorne and the Vale. There's also a clan of people (I forget but I think they were cannibalistic) that resemble the wildlings.In the Trinity books there is a goddess named Lys and the name of the protagonist is Torkyn often shortened to Tor. There's a similarity in the names in Asoiaf and trinity.Another similarity is the way they portray the prostitution and brothels. They have a sort of Oldtown-like place as well. There's pirates and hangings and wizards and all that.I don't know if this helps but I'm just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyOne Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Correction. The Norse gods were Woden and Freya. Make and female respectively. It is through them that Valykries are born. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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