hollowcrown Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Victarion seems like a very disliked character to many people on this site. A lot of people only think he is going to deliver Dany some ships so she can get to Westeros, and then die.But I think he's a more important character. He has some pretty important grievances with his brother Euron which I'd like to see tied up, and some have speculated he could be Azor Ahai with the "salt and smoke" connection he has, being "born" in both of them. He's also got a Red Priest with him, just like Stannis, one of the most magical objects in the series, the Dragon horn, which could also be the horn which breaks the wall, and he has a magical fire hand.He's one of the most magical characters in the series at the moment, and I'd personally like to see him as more than a plot device to give Dany a fleet.I'm expecting Vic to steal one of the dragons with the horn and go back to Westeros and start causing havoc.This will finally give Dany a reason to go to Westeros and she'll get her arse in gear.Any thoughts on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theda Baratheon Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I strongly dislike him for many reasons; he's brutish, not too intelligent but it does seem GRRM is setting him up for something. I just hope I don't have to read too many more POV's from the bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where Boars Glow Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Yes he has been riding that to dumb to live to bad to die razor for a tad to long. I beleive his brother will end his dreams of conquest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollowcrown Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 Yes he has been riding that to dumb to live to bad to die razor for a tad to long. I beleive his brother will end his dreams of conquest.I personally think he's much more of a lesser evil than Euron. Euron is plain evil. Victarion is just your typical Ironborn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Wing Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Ah, Vic's a riot... And definitely a goner. The Red Priest is playing him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Shiera Seastar~ Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 One great role will be fighting the Meereen enemies in the name of Dany, or making Dany a widow, or fist fighting against Daario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkAndFullOfTurnips Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 As long as he kills Daario I'm fine with whatever else happens to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pupo Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I love his POV's, as i've read someone point out, they were "a breath of fresh air" in all the boring Essos story. But i don't think he will last long, he'll probably just assure victory in Mereen, and that someone will get some control over some dragon, and die somewhere in the middle.My guess is that he'll get totally screwed by the Red Priest, but it would also be funny for him to be eaten after stating to Dany: "Rejoyce, for you are now mine, woman, and shall bear me many strong children" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where Boars Glow Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I personally think he's much more of a lesser evil than Euron. Euron is plain evil. Victarion is just your typical Ironborn.i agree he is the lesser evil....but as George has made abundantly clear he subscribes to the theory evil will always triumph over good....because good is dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jslay427 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I'll be sad when Vic goes, as he has provided many LoL moments for me. And his fight against Serry is prolly my favorite 1v1 in the whole series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mountain That Posts Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I don't get all the hate for Vic. I think his POV chapters are actually quite awesome. *shrugs*ETA: Then again, the only POV characters I DON'T typically like are Bran, post-ACoK Arya, Samwell and Dany. *shrugs again* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollowcrown Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 I don't get all the hate for Vic. I think his POV chapters are actually quite awesome. *shrugs*ETA: Then again, the only POV characters I DON'T typically like are Bran, post-ACoK Arya, Samwell and Dany. *shrugs again*I enjoyed his chapters. He's definitely the most interesting Ironborn to me (drawn with Euron). Asha's chapters are kinda boring and same with Damphair.Anyway...is Victarion simply going to be a plot device for ships? And what is Moqorro's motive if Vic is going to get played? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dornishman's Wife Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 And what is Moqorro's motive if Vic is going to get played?Moqorro's allegiance is (most probably) to Dany, that was his holy mission. Vicky plans to kidnap and enslave her.Not that he bears her any conscious ill will with that, it's just what he does and he probably doesn't even understand the possibility that she might mind, but it's still not in Dany's interest to be 'claimed' by him and thus it is in Moqorro's interest to move against Vicky at some point.The most straightforward way this could play out is Moqorro simply using Vicky to get to Dany, then warning her before Vic can make his move, potentially disabling him at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theda Baratheon Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I don't get all the hate for Vic. I think his POV chapters are actually quite awesome. *shrugs*ETA: Then again, the only POV characters I DON'T typically like are Bran, post-ACoK Arya, Samwell and Dany. *shrugs again*Might stem from the fact he killed his own wife for being raped by this brother. He's boring, stupid and a complete brute. :dunno: But that's just what I personally think of him, I couldn't stand his POVs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where Boars Glow Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Moqorro's allegiance is (most probably) to Dany, that was his holy mission. Vicky plans to kidnap and enslave her.Not that he bears her any conscious ill will with that, it's just what he does and he probably doesn't even understand the possibility that she might mind, but it's still not in Dany's interest to be 'claimed' by him and thus it is in Moqorro's interest to move against Vicky at some point.The most straightforward way this could play out is Moqorro simply using Vicky to get to Dany, then warning her before Vic can make his move, potentially disabling him at the same time.I think because of the last couple books people are forgetting Danys ability to command. She has it in her to take men who expected to boss her around then out WILL, MANUVER, and THINK them and turn them to her cause.I also just pictured how badass it would be to see Victorian go head to head with Barristan the Bold. That would be a fight worthy of a song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willy york Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Moqorro's allegiance is (most probably) to Dany, that was his holy mission. Vicky plans to kidnap and enslave her.Not that he bears her any conscious ill will with that, it's just what he does and he probably doesn't even understand the possibility that she might mind, but it's still not in Dany's interest to be 'claimed' by him and thus it is in Moqorro's interest to move against Vicky at some point.The most straightforward way this could play out is Moqorro simply using Vicky to get to Dany, then warning her before Vic can make his move, potentially disabling him at the same time.it makes more sense to me that victarion would claim her. whatever moqorro has in mind for her will likely be easier to accomplish with him and his ships. dany is eitehr going to end up with victarion or hizdahr. i personally believe that hizdahr zo loraq, father of dragons, will be the next king of westeros, but victarion has a strong chance of claiming that, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dornish Whine Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Victarion is awesome. He is thick as a castle wall, but he is a BAMF. It looks like he is going to ride a dragon and will probably lay waste all over Meereen... but I think the 'too dumb to live' aspect is going to win out in the end. My prediction - he falls into the ocean from dragonback and drowns in his platemail. lulz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Wun Wun Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Bring Dany the dragon horn (changed my mind; Tyrion gets the horn, not Dany) and also the fleet she needs to get to Westeros. This new fleet will be composed partly from Vic's own ships and partly from the fleets of Yunkai and Volantis, which Vic will defeat in battle. I don't see Dany and Vic making the trip to Westeros together in an allied capacity, however.But instead of just being killed off once Dany gets the goods off him, I think Vic will use whatever ships Dany doesn't get from him to chase and harass her on the way to Westeros. I could see him managing to take her captive at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theda Baratheon Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Victarion is awesome. He is thick as a castle wall, but he is a BAMF. It looks like he is going to ride a dragon and will probably lay waste all over Meereen... but I think the 'too dumb to live' aspect is going to win out in the end. My prediction - he falls into the ocean from dragonback and drowns in his platemail. lulz.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Turtle Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Vic is almost surely the dumbest character we have for POV, no I don't see bright or long future for him. He's Qentyn 2.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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