Small questions v.10002

[Stannis Eats No Peaches]

Your signature is so appropriate. :lol:

[Nausicaä]

Did Ned really return greatsword Dawn to the Daynes? I've read it in the forums but please could someone tell me in which chapter I can find that info??

Thanks so much

It's from Catelyn's first chapter in AGOT (the first time we hear about Daynes!):

Ned would not speak of the mother, not so much as a word, but a castle has no secrets, and Catelyn heard her maids repeating tales they heard from the lips of her husband’s soldiers. They whispered of Ser Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning, deadliest of the seven knights of Aerys’s Kingsguard, and of how their young lord had slain him in single combat. And they told how afterward Ned had carried Ser Arthur's sword back to the beautiful young sister who awaited him in a castle called Starfall on the shores of the Summer Sea. The Lady Ashara Dayne, tall and fair, with haunting violet eyes.

And here's the relevant SSM entry:

What happened to Ser Arthur Dayne's sword Dawn after Ned brought it back to Ashara?

Dawn remains at Starfall, until another Sword of the Morning shall arise.

[Sansa's Florian]

Does anyone know who started the fire in The Sworn Sword?

[Zupoleon]

Does anyone know who started the fire in The Sworn Sword?

Haven't read it in a while, but I thought it was Ser Lucas.

[Jon's Queen Consort]

An awkard question:

Because something was mentioned in a post before and I haven't thought about it: after the wedding there has to be the undressing that leads to bedding?

[The Dornishman's Wife]

An awkard question:

Because something was mentioned in a post before and I haven't thought about it: after the wedding there has to be the undressing that leads to bedding?

Seems to be pretty standard. But it's still just a tradition, not a law, marriages don't get invalidated just because there was no usual undressing/bedding ceremony, see Tyrion's wedding with Sansa.

However, if there is no consummation at all, that is something different and a marriage might be challenged on these grounds.

[Yukle]

Seems to be pretty standard. But it's still just a tradition, not a law, marriages don't get invalidated just because there was no usual undressing/bedding ceremony, see Tyrion's wedding with Sansa.

However, if there is no consummation at all, that is something different and a marriage might be challenged on these grounds.

And since royal and noble families want their marriages to be legally binding as quickly as possible it seems to have become tradition to get busy as soon as possible. This is where the real world tradition comes from, too!

[Jon's Queen Consort]

Seems to be pretty standard. But it's still just a tradition, not a law, marriages don't get invalidated just because there was no usual undressing/bedding ceremony, see Tyrion's wedding with Sansa.

However, if there is no consummation at all, that is something different and a marriage might be challenged on these grounds.

So it's upon anyone's taste... Thank you Dornishman's wife!

(Stannis' bedding would have been so funny btw)

[Black Wolf Smith]

Some times I just flat out love you.

ETA: sorry don't have like button, so this is all I could think of.

[evita mgfs]

I have a question to pose, and I apologize if this is a "stupid" question that has already been addressed in other threads.

Here goes: in Bran's fifth POV in AGoT, Robb leaves him alone to check out the kill that the direwolves have made. When he returns, he has an elk across his gelding; obviously the wolves took down the elk.

"He was mounted, the bloody carcass of an elk slung across the back of his horse, his sword in a gloved hand."

Robb is fifteen, and no where has Martin indicated that Robb has the superhuman strength of a Jean Valjean. How does Robb hoist a dead body of a rather large animal on the back of his gelding with no assistance?

I am wondering if this is an evidence of the old gods, maybe through Grey Wind, offering a helping hand?

Not only would lifting a dead elk be difficult, but horses do not easily accept the dead body of an animal on their backs unless it is quartered and packaged, or so my husband the great hunter tells me. He says the horse may be well trained, but that horses as a rule can give a rider some difficulty, like "not" standing still while a dead animal is positioned so that it will not slide off?

I also do not think Robb had time to gut and bleed out the elk, unless the direwolves only left "part" of an elk, and ate the rest????

[Kriseis]

Does anyone know for sure when Dolorous Edd joined the Night's Watch?

[Stannis Eats No Peaches]

And since royal and noble families want their marriages to be legally binding as quickly as possible it seems to have become tradition to get busy as soon as possible. This is where the real world tradition comes from, too!

I've just noticed your signature. :bang:

Does anyone know for sure when Dolorous Edd joined the Night's Watch?

:dunno: at a miserable time in his life?

Welcome!

[TheButcherCrow]

I have a question to pose, and I apologize if this is a "stupid" question that has already been addressed in other threads.

Here goes: in Bran's fifth POV in AGoT, Robb leaves him alone to check out the kill that the direwolves have made. When he returns, he has an elk across his gelding; obviously the wolves took down the elk.

"He was mounted, the bloody carcass of an elk slung across the back of his horse, his sword in a gloved hand."

Robb is fifteen, and no where has Martin indicated that Robb has the superhuman strength of a Jean Valjean. How does Robb hoist a dead body of a rather large animal on the back of his gelding with no assistance?

I am wondering if this is an evidence of the old gods, maybe through Grey Wind, offering a helping hand?

Not only would lifting a dead elk be difficult, but horses do not easily accept the dead body of an animal on their backs unless it is quartered and packaged, or so my husband the great hunter tells me. He says the horse may be well trained, but that horses as a rule can give a rider some difficulty, like "not" standing still while a dead animal is positioned so that it will not slide off?

I also do not think Robb had time to gut and bleed out the elk, unless the direwolves only left "part" of an elk, and ate the rest????

I've got no good explanation for how he lifted an elk, although it is never stated that it is a full-grown elk. As to how he got it on the horse, these would be horses specifically trained to take kills on their back I suspect. The reason I posted though was to thankyou for making me re-read that scene, it is awesome.

[Ser Leftwich]

Does anyone know for sure when Dolorous Edd joined the Night's Watch?

No information that I can think of, not even sure how old Edd is. Speculation, he might have been on the Targ loyalist side in the early Robellion Vale battles.

[Lady Gwynhyfvar]

I have a question to pose, and I apologize if this is a "stupid" question that has already been addressed in other threads.

Here goes: in Bran's fifth POV in AGoT, Robb leaves him alone to check out the kill that the direwolves have made. When he returns, he has an elk across his gelding; obviously the wolves took down the elk.

"He was mounted, the bloody carcass of an elk slung across the back of his horse, his sword in a gloved hand."

Robb is fifteen, and no where has Martin indicated that Robb has the superhuman strength of a Jean Valjean. How does Robb hoist a dead body of a rather large animal on the back of his gelding with no assistance?

I am wondering if this is an evidence of the old gods, maybe through Grey Wind, offering a helping hand?

Not only would lifting a dead elk be difficult, but horses do not easily accept the dead body of an animal on their backs unless it is quartered and packaged, or so my husband the great hunter tells me. He says the horse may be well trained, but that horses as a rule can give a rider some difficulty, like "not" standing still while a dead animal is positioned so that it will not slide off?

I also do not think Robb had time to gut and bleed out the elk, unless the direwolves only left "part" of an elk, and ate the rest????

Ah, I just read this scene today and all I could focus on at first was "how did he get that elk up there?" and then as the fight progressed and Robb took out two wildlings from horseback "wait, what happened to his elk? how did that thing not fall off or get in his way?"

I'm sorry to say I had to conclude this was one of those rare cases where GRRM just didn't work out every detail as he wrote the scene. The elk is never mentioned again after that first sentence.

ETA- in all other regards this was an excellent chapter with a lot of great little details :)

[evita mgfs]

I've got no good explanation for how he lifted an elk, although it is never stated that it is a full-grown elk. As to how he got it on the horse, these would be horses specifically trained to take kills on their back I suspect. The reason I posted though was to thankyou for making me re-read that scene, it is awesome.

Ah, I just read this scene today and all I could focus on at first was "how did he get that elk up there?" and then as the fight progressed and Robb took out two wildlings from horseback "wait, what happened to his elk? how did that thing not fall off or get in his way?"

I'm sorry to say I had to conclude this was one of those rare cases where GRRM just didn't work out every detail as he wrote the scene. The elk is never mentioned again after that first sentence.

ETA- in all other regards this was an excellent chapter with a lot of great little details :)

:bowdown: :bowdown: BUTCHER CROW and LADY GWYNHYFVAR : Thank you both for your replies! This elk business I had to take to my husband for advice because I was not sure about the logistics of Robb managing such a feat alone. GOOD CALL LADY G on Robb on horseback fighting the wildings. No, I do not think the elk would have remained secure, and Robb truly would be disadvantaged with it ahorse to impede him.

I was wondering if the fact that Robb does manage this indicates the old gods are endowing him with "strength", which he may access through his telepathic link with Grey Wind? Martin does not say a a calf, or really give us any indication as to the age: but it hangs over both sides of the horse's back. And since you recently read the scene, Robb was not long away from Bran: maybe 15 minutes? Robb accomplishes quite a bit in 15 minutes. [Martin indicates that Robb feels guilty for leaving his brother unprotected.]

FYI: What the wiki says about elk and their size and stature: “Elk cows average 225 to 241 kg (500 to 530 lb), stand 1.3 m (4.3 ft) at the shoulder, and are 2.1 m (6.9 ft) from nose to tail. Bulls are some 40% larger than cows at maturity, weighing an average of 320 to 331 kg (710 to 730 lb), standing 1.5 m (4.9 ft) at the shoulder and averaging 2.45 m (8.0 ft) in length.^{[19][20] . . .} The smallest bodied race is the Tule elk (C. c. nannodes), which weighs from 170 to 250 kg (370 to 550 lb) in both sexes.”^{[22] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elk}

Thanks again!

[RumHam]

I am wondering if this is an evidence of the old gods, maybe through Grey Wind, offering a helping hand?

Something like that is more likely just sloppy writing (the man does an amazing job most of the time but everyone makes mistakes.) rather than the old gods taking an active hand to help Robb lift an elk of all things.

[Selyse's Moustache Rides]

Is it possible that Dany had a miscarriage at the end of Dance? She gets her "moon blood" for the first time in possibly 2 or 3 months, and it was heavier than she ever having remembered it. Also, isn't Rhaego mentioned for the first time in forever?

[Dr. Pepper]

Is it possible that Dany had a miscarriage at the end of Dance? She gets her "moon blood" for the first time in possibly 2 or 3 months, and it was heavier than she ever having remembered it. Also, isn't Rhaego mentioned for the first time in forever?

Yes, very possibly and probably very likely. Daario was the first person she's had sex with since Drogo died. She's been having sex with Daario for about three months. She had missed about three periods.

[Selyse's Moustache Rides]

Yay! I actually caught something all by my lonesome. Not that I haven't caught other things before (I'm pretty sure I figured out Sandor = gravedigger), but it's always exciting when I do.