Tony Soprano Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 No, that's definitely him persuading Mace Rayder that he's abandoned the Nights WatchYou sure about that?I think it's some kind of code, maybe to persuade the Castle Black garrison that he didn't desert. Like Grey Guardian said, it's probably some kind of warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyful Union Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 You sure about that?I think it's some kind of code, maybe to persuade the Castle Black garrison that he didn't desert. Like Grey Guardian said, it's probably some kind of warning.Well it just fits perfectly with what happened in the book, where Mance is talking about how the Night Watch took his colored cloak away for a black one, stole his freedom etc. Basically, its him saying that the life of a Nightswatchmen isnt a life at all, because you cant be with women, wear what you want and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalalOfDorne Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 YES! Just saw a glimpse of Asha Greyjoy on the trailer. The Ironborn mught be in this season after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Guardian Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 No, that's definitely him persuading Mace Rayder that he's abandoned the Nights WatchWell I know we don't see the person's face, but it doesn't look like Mance from behind. The person Jon is speaking to looks like they're wearing black, but again, we can't be certain and that doesn't prove anything anyways. However, Jon seems to be sweating a lot, which seems odd for beyond the Wall. It seems as though he's been tiring himself out with something, perhaps his flight from Queenscrown to Castle Black. And I think the line is Jon trying to persuade the NW that he hasn't deserted, that he isn't lying and that the wildlings really are coming from the South. He's basically telling them that if they don't listen to him, Castle Black will most likely fall and the wildlings and probably WW too will pass through the Wall and wreak havoc on the people of Westeros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyful Union Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Well I know we don't see the person's face, but it doesn't look like Mance from behind. The person Jon is speaking to looks like they're wearing black, but again, we can't be certain and that doesn't prove anything anyways. However, Jon seems to be sweating a lot, which seems odd for beyond the Wall. It seems as though he's been tiring himself out with something, perhaps his flight from Queenscrown to Castle Black. And I think the line is Jon trying to persuade the NW that he hasn't deserted, that he isn't lying and that the wildlings really are coming from the South. He's basically telling them that if they don't listen to him, Castle Black will most likely fall and the wildlings and probably WW too will pass through the Wall and wreak havoc on the people of Westeros.But why would he call the Nights watch "the living"? The Night Watchmen could be considered to not truly be living, because they lack basic personal freedom's. As I said to Alex above here, "Well it just fits perfectly with what happened in the book, where Mance is talking about how the Night Watch took his colored cloak away for a black one, stole his freedom etc. Basically, its him saying that the life of a Nightswatchmen isnt a life at all, because you cant be with women, wear what you want and so on" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasrith Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 I think it's some kind of code, maybe to persuade the Castle Black garrison that he didn't desert. Like Grey Guardian said, it's probably some kind of warning.I doubt it was something from the end of the season. More like his discussion with Mance early on, most likely 1st episode. The grey tent like background definitely suggests this as opposed to Castle Black too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Guardian Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 But why would he call the Nights watch "the living"? The Night Watchmen could be considered to not truly be living, because they lack basic personal freedom's. As I said to Alex above here, "Well it just fits perfectly with what happened in the book, where Mance is talking about how the Night Watch took his colored cloak away for a black one, stole his freedom etc. Basically, its him saying that the life of a Nightswatchmen isnt a life at all, because you cant be with women, wear what you want and so on"Yes, but he wouldn't be calling the Night's Watch itself the living, but the people they fight for. The Night's Watch is, of course, there to protect the people of Westeros from the terrors beyond the Wall. Thus the people of Westeros, ignorant of everything that is happening and how grateful they should be to the NW, would be 'the living' that he is speaking of.You could very well be right though. I guess we'll find out a month from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tommen Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Lots of S3 footage released to this point (both filmed and behind the scenes) and not one single frame indicating Robb is at the Twins or going there. They're really going to try their hardest to keep a wrap on this as best they can.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Flaying Man Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Lots of S3 footage released to this point (both filmed and behind the scenes) and not one single frame indicating Robb is at the Twins or going there. They're really going to try their hardest to keep a wrap on this as best they can....There's one, if you look extremely carefully. What some have speculated as a cyvasse piece near the end of the trailer is actually a model of a direwolf's head, one of Robb's map pieces. It is being placed next to a model of what initially looks like a generic keep, but on closer inspection you can see two towers, with an arched bridge in between. AKA, Robb's arrival at The Twins.I thought that was a beautiful, very subtle nod :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tommen Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 That's about as subtle as humanly possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montey14 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Robb and Cat never end up in Harrenhal....perhaps they change it for the show ...or perhaps its just one of the ruined holdfasts along the way to Riverrun....there has been alot of fighting and the Lannisters have burned and pillaged and unleashed hell in the riverlands .....I never recal Cat and robb being at harrenhal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archana The Brown Walker Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 It's a camera perspective trick. The shot will start with him looking like a large beasty and end with him either landing in front of Dany or on her, as a little dragon. The dragons will only be a little bigger than when we last saw them. Likely the dragons will grow as the series progresses, howeverOf course the dragons will grow. That's the point. They will have around 20 feet wing span by the time ADWD goes onscreen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tommen Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Robb and Cat never end up in Harrenhal....perhaps they change it for the show ...or perhaps its just one of the ruined holdfasts along the way to Riverrun....there has been alot of fighting and the Lannisters have burned and pillaged and unleashed hell in the riverlands .....I never recal Cat and robb being at harrenhalYou're 100% correct, but as you know, the show includes things that don't happen in the books. It's Harrenhal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Lannisport Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Robb and Cat never end up in Harrenhal....perhaps they change it for the show ...or perhaps its just one of the ruined holdfasts along the way to Riverrun....there has been alot of fighting and the Lannisters have burned and pillaged and unleashed hell in the riverlands .....I never recal Cat and robb being at harrenhalThe prevailing theory is that Robb takes Harrenhal so that Roose Bolton can be there for Jamie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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