Prince of the North Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 I read somewhere that perhaps Benjen was killed, but warged into a wight's body... hence Coldhands. That explains the helpfulness, the black hands and that he (meaning, the walker corpse) died "long ago."But if a skinchanger could simply "jump" into a wight then surely Varamyr Sixskins would have done that instead of warging into that old wolf "One Eye" when he was dying, right? :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvvothe Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Am I the only one who thinks that Benjen will never return and was simply just a character that GRRM introduced in the first book and never really had long term plans for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bemused Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark@heart Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Am I the only one who thinks that Benjen will never return and was simply just a character that GRRM introduced in the first book and never really had long term plans for him?Look to the actor they chose to play the part on HBO.He's a good looking guy and perfect for playing a North man so why use him in 2 or 3 episodes and that's it when he could have made a great Mance or Roose and had more screen time?I think that's the biggest clue that Benjen is coming back. I think he's Coldhands and the show will have to "give it up" where as GRRM can be vague and keep us guessing for another 10 years.LOLIf he's not Coldhands then he could still be coming back from the Lands of Always Winter and have a story to tell. One way or the Other(haha) I think we'll see more of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvvothe Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 I dont think you can tell anything by the actor they chose, especially just because he looks like someone who would be from the North. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonSnowx2 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Look to the actor they chose to play the part on HBO.He's a good looking guy and perfect for playing a North man so why use him in 2 or 3 episodes and that's it when he could have made a great Mance or Roose and had more screen time?I think that's the biggest clue that Benjen is coming back. I think he's Coldhands and the show will have to "give it up" where as GRRM can be vague and keep us guessing for another 10 years.LOLIf he's not Coldhands then he could still be coming back from the Lands of Always Winter and have a story to tell. One way or the Other(haha) I think we'll see more of him.Benjen is not Coldhands because the child of the forest said 'they killed him long ago ' benjen wasn't killed long ago , we don't even know if he is dead.on who Coldhands really is i think he's just an old member of the nightswatch who found the three-eyed-raven and now is helping him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis the Menace Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 I seriously wouldn't be surprised if we don't see him again. He's one of the ultimate disappearing characters and it would be disappointing to most if he's gone, but if GRRM wants to keep it real, he can't have every non-POV character who disappears come back into the story.Yea he definitely wants to "keep it real" which his epic FANTASY novel series ::rolls eyes::GRRM can do whatever he wants with the series. What is interpreted as "real" in our eyes does not matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logodnica Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Am I the only one who thinks that Benjen will never return and was simply just a character that GRRM introduced in the first book and never really had long term plans for him?It's actually quite realistic for people to disappear in times of conflict and war and never be seen again. Killed, vanished, broken. Not all families get answers about what happened to their loved ones. GRRM hates tropes and cliches. So us not knowing what happened to him may be EXACTLY his plan. GRRM will do as he pleases, which I'm very happy about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bemused Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 But I believe he has said we will find out what happened to Benjen, so obviously ,whether alive or dead , his story influences the greater story.. my guess is he's alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firepoet Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Am I the only one who thinks that Benjen will never return and was simply just a character that GRRM introduced in the first book and never really had long term plans for him?Which would be fine, but we really should have come across the corpse. It seems like it would take more effort to not show that he died, then to just have them come across the corpse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLostStark Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Sounds morbid but I really want the Starks to die out trying to save humanity but then Benjen comes back and the Starks rule in Winterfell once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Miester Flash Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Can Benjen be cold hands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spilly Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 A Benjen POV.. perhaps.. but a Hodor POV.. now we're talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvvothe Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 A Hodor POV would be awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercyTheBlindUglyLittleCat Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Benjen would be my guess for the epilogue character, though I think through the course of TWoW, we'll be given a lot more off hand details and such and whats been going on with him this whole time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkash Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 I really like the idea of having Benjen coming back at the Wall during ADoS like "Wow, I got really cold out there ! Any news from my brother ? He's Hand of the King you know !"But I also like the idea of seeing him in the prologue, via a lost and half-frozen wildling about to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob the Fiddler Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 I have a feeling that our eyes beyond the Wall will be Jon acting through Ghost. Ghost will be a POV character as Jon convalesces under the protection of Melisandre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrodarcniss Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 My money is on he is:1) Working for/with BR and the children of the forest. He met them or was saved by them and they convinced him that they are trying to stop the Others. He is therefor in his mind not breaking his vows.2) On their directive he left the draggonglass and horn at the Fist o/t FM.3) He is currently Hooded in Winterfell, ironicly also on their directive and not for himself so that he can help get rid of the Boltons and the Freys and unite the north to fight the Others without being noticed.4) While he's aware of the plotting going on in Winterfell, he's not involved with them directly. He knows he only need to edge things on in order to make them collapse on itself. While killing Freys makes up for a lot, he does feel guilty about breaking the "take no part in the realm" part of his vow. That's why he used he NW cloak to wrap the glass in. It was after all the last thing he did directly for the Watch.5) He'll be Jon's Nissa NIssa.As for my admittedly feeble dreams about the battle itself:1) Benjen will stab Roose from behind and say: Robb sends his regards.2) Ramsay will die running through the snow, being chased by a huge black direwolf with a 6-year old on it's back. Some time many years later, a black direwolf pup will be named Snow.Just because GRRM decides that some times the gods are even better then when they turned Aerion Bryghtflame into a corpse. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingoopah Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 I think Benjen is hiding in a whorehouse in Lys with Gerion Lannister, enjoying himself :drunk: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince of the North Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Can Benjen be cold hands?*Emphasis mine* Sure! Why not? At this point he's just as good of a candidate as anyone else ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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